I think I've done just about as much as I can on this image. Plus the new stills
topic should be announced tomorrow, so I want to finish this and move on.


I thought I'd do a quick review of some of the good ideas that weren't used:

- People/robots, deckchair, boats and any other man-made presence - the idea
with these things was that this is a nice place to chill out and relax, so to
show this someone should be in the scene doing just that, or implied by the
presence of objects associated with that (an empty deck chair, boat, etc.). Now
the image is at this stage I feel the objects and scene serve a more immediate
purpose, it is not a nice place to -be-, it's a nice place to -see-! I don't
want any human occupation in the scene because you are the human who comes here
to enjoy it. If I put someone in the picture it will only make the viewer
jealous! Well, that's pretentious but I think it works better like this.

- 3D media clouds - I've stayed with the 2D clouds because I like their ethereal
apearance and media clouds rarely look as soft as this, plus the render time
would become much worse with media.

- The empty right side of the image, too much sky etc. - Obviously these things
are a matter of opinion and I know some people like the way this shot is laid
out and others prefer the earlier versions. I could go into lengthy details bout
why I think it works like this, but I don't see much point, you will either like
it or not and frankly I'd be very worried if everyone agreed about this! So I'll
just say this layout feels right to me, every tweak I made in this direction
improved the feeling I got from it, and every time I tried something else it got
worse.


Just a couple of specific questions:
- What do you think of the fish, does the water surface distort them too much or
do they look right?
- What should I call this picture? "grassy julia" was just a description of what
I first created, but then maybe I should keep that title since that's what
people here know it as. All suggestions welcome then I'll pick my favourite :)
My own suggestion is "a holiday with Julia".

All other comments, criticisms, and suggestions are welcome as always.


Oh, and finally, in case I forget to say this later: Many thanks to everyone who
left comments on the earlier wips, you've helped to create one of my best images
ever.

Cheers,
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Tek
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I think it is almost ok for me... ;-) no ideas tough !

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To this message: news:3f00a1b2@news.povray.org
Maybe your news reader is playing up?

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There's only one thing that bothers me about this picture.  It's been bothering me
since you first put them in, but I couldn't put
my finger on why.  It's the little white flowers.  I finally figured out, it's because
they're flat, like a quarter.  It makes me
feel like they are little flower shaped golf tees stuck into the ground, rather than
flowers growning out of it.  I know this is a
little nit picky thing, but the little flowers distract me.

Now, I think the flowers should be there, but I think they need a little bit of a cup,
and maybe a little petal rotation, like an
airplane propeler.  Anything so I don't see discs on sticks.  Other than that, the
image is GREAT!

Andrew Wilcox

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Yep. I can see the image at the
http://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.images/32269/ perfectly. My reader is
acting weird...

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Good idea, it should be pretty easy to at least bend them a bit...

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"Andrew Wilcox" <awi### [at] unpuzzledcom> wrote in message
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> There's only one thing that bothers me about this picture.  It's been
bothering me since you first put them in, but I couldn't put
> my finger on why.  It's the little white flowers.  I finally figured out, it's
because they're flat, like a quarter.  It makes me
> feel like they are little flower shaped golf tees stuck into the ground,
rather than flowers growning out of it.  I know this is a
> little nit picky thing, but the little flowers distract me.
>
> Now, I think the flowers should be there, but I think they need a little bit
of a cup, and maybe a little petal rotation, like an
> airplane propeler.  Anything so I don't see discs on sticks.  Other than that,
the image is GREAT!
>
> Andrew Wilcox
>
>

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Andrew Wilcox wrote:
> Now, I think the flowers should be there, but I think they need a
> little bit of a cup, and maybe a little petal rotation, like an
> airplane propeler.  Anything so I don't see discs on sticks.  Other
> than that, the image is GREAT!

Damn - was just about to post the exact same thing!

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"Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom> wrote in news:3f00a1b2@news.povray.org:

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> All other comments, criticisms, and suggestions are welcome as always.
> 


Well, I have followed the evolution of this work since the first version. 
Never gave a comment. Now, I'll change that:

Perfect!

You're an artist. Your "Marvellous Julia" bring peace of mind. It's a 
wonderfull place to be. Calm and relax. To me it's perfect.

Thank you for sharing your work with us.

Ciao!

Mart

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"Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom> wrote in news:3f00a1b2@news.povray.org:


> welcome then I'll pick my favourite :) My own suggestion is "a holiday
> with Julia". 
> 
>

I think you do not need any suggestions.  That title is perfect.  I love 
this image.

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