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From: Andreas Kreisig
Subject: Lambo Diablo part 2
Date: 24 Jun 2003 23:19:29
Message: <3ef914ac@news.povray.org>
Hi,

I found some time to finish my next Diablo image.

Andreas

-- 
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From:  Light Beam 
Subject: Re: Lambo Diablo part 2
Date: 25 Jun 2003 13:02:42
Message: <3ef9d5b2$1@news.povray.org>
Incredible ! Great lightning too.


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From: Tek
Subject: Re: Lambo Diablo part 2
Date: 25 Jun 2003 13:13:49
Message: <3ef9d84d$1@news.povray.org>
I love the reflection on the bonnet, I've seen a lot of professional photos do
that trick. The model looks faultless from this angle, it would be nice to see
it in a more realistic scene.

--
Tek
http://www.evilsuperbrain.com


"Andreas Kreisig" <and### [at] gmxde> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I found some time to finish my next Diablo image.
>
> Andreas
>
> --
> http://www.render-zone.com


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Lambo Diablo part 2
Date: 25 Jun 2003 15:02:04
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"Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom> wrote in message
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> I love the reflection on the bonnet, I've seen a lot of professional
photos do
> that trick. The model looks faultless from this angle, it would be
nice to see
> it in a more realistic scene.

    Do you think it would look any different Tek? Hmm... Thinking
about it, I can see some sparse woodland reflecting in those doors -
yes, I agree. Park it in a wood.

   ~Steve~


> Tek
> http://www.evilsuperbrain.com


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From: Xplo Eristotle
Subject: Re: Lambo Diablo part 2
Date: 25 Jun 2003 15:11:54
Message: <3ef9f3fa$1@news.povray.org>
Andreas Kreisig wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I found some time to finish my next Diablo image.

Wow. That looks sweet. Congrats!

-Xplo


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From: Glen Berry
Subject: Re: Lambo Diablo part 2
Date: 27 Jun 2003 12:08:45
Message: <akqofvs9kfl356060rstngn6j6ssf06dgp@4ax.com>
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 18:14:52 +0100, "Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom>
wrote:

>The model looks faultless from this angle, it would be nice to see
>it in a more realistic scene.

A more realistic scene? What is unrealistic about this scene? 

There are expensive cars parked in environments like this all the
time. It's called a studio. Perhaps you don't park your vehicle in a
photo studio, but that doesn't make this scene unrealistic--uncommon
(for you) perhaps, but not unrealistic.


later,
Glen Berry


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From: Andreas Kreisig
Subject: Re: Lambo Diablo part 2
Date: 27 Jun 2003 12:20:09
Message: <3efc6eb9@news.povray.org>
Glen Berry wrote:

> A more realistic scene? What is unrealistic about this scene?
> 
> There are expensive cars parked in environments like this all the
> time. It's called a studio. Perhaps you don't park your vehicle in a
> photo studio, but that doesn't make this scene unrealistic--uncommon
> (for you) perhaps, but not unrealistic.

Yes, it's a typical indoor studio scene. I'm currently working on an outdoor
scene with HDRI. This will also be the last Diablo picture.

Regards,
Andreas

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From: Glen Berry
Subject: Re: Lambo Diablo part 2
Date: 27 Jun 2003 12:40:07
Message: <2lsofv0j44irbdgffm47dv00a72jljvp3s@4ax.com>
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 18:27:56 +0200, Andreas Kreisig <and### [at] gmxde>
wrote:

>Yes, it's a typical indoor studio scene. I'm currently working on an outdoor
>scene with HDRI. This will also be the last Diablo picture.

That's too bad (about it being the last one.) I wouldn't mind if you
posted a new one each week.  :)

For your grand finale, perhaps you could render an animation of the
Diablo sitting on a revolving platform (like the ones sometimes seen
at car shows or dealer's showrooms.) I know that's a lot of rendering
time, but I think it would look nice.


later,
Glen Berry


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From: Tek
Subject: Re: Lambo Diablo part 2
Date: 27 Jun 2003 13:53:07
Message: <3efc8483$1@news.povray.org>
"realistic" and "real" are not the same thing. Realism is about creating in the
viewer's mind the impression of reality. Photographer's studios are constructed
to give the impression of perfection to the subject of the image, in a way that
is unattainable in the so called "real world" of day-to-day life.

Therefore, whilst a photographer's studio is realistic, a -more- realistic scene
would be outside on a street like you see every day. Giving us the chance to
more accurately assess the quality of this model in comparison to real-world
cars.

I guess it depends on the aim of this project: If Andreas was trying to make a
car that looks like a poster then he has most certainly acheived that, but I
always thought he was trying to make a -car-, so I'd like to also see it in
situations I've seen real cars in so I can really assess how close he's got to
reality.

I think I said "real" too much there... :)

BTW, I should point out the reason I'm so fussy about this is my day job is as a
graphics programmer on a racing game (Race Driver), so I spend a lot of time
comparing the real world to our in-game renders. Inevitably I'm very critical of
anyone's attempts to do this, but Andreas's car looks perfect from what I've
seen so far.

--
Tek
http://www.evilsuperbrain.com


"Glen Berry" <7no### [at] ezwvcom> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 18:14:52 +0100, "Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom>
> wrote:
>
> >The model looks faultless from this angle, it would be nice to see
> >it in a more realistic scene.
>
> A more realistic scene? What is unrealistic about this scene?
>
> There are expensive cars parked in environments like this all the
> time. It's called a studio. Perhaps you don't park your vehicle in a
> photo studio, but that doesn't make this scene unrealistic--uncommon
> (for you) perhaps, but not unrealistic.
>
>
> later,
> Glen Berry
>


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Lambo Diablo part 2
Date: 27 Jun 2003 15:55:39
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"Glen Berry" <7no### [at] ezwvcom> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 18:14:52 +0100, "Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom>
> wrote:
>
> >The model looks faultless from this angle, it would be nice to see
> >it in a more realistic scene.
>
> A more realistic scene? What is unrealistic about this scene?

   I think Tek explained it well, although I really think that he
might also be saying that a great-looking car like this would look
better in a more realistic scene, because it seems like a bit of a
waste the way it is at the moment (to me anyway) - so, yes, let's see
it in a different/more realistic scene.

  Simple. (I would hope!)    ;)

   ~Steve~




> later,
> Glen Berry
>


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