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From: Tek
Subject: Grassy julia v3
Date: 22 Jun 2003 14:32:48
Message: <3ef5f650@news.povray.org>
I've added a parasol and deck chair, and improved the texturing on the rock.
Note the very bottom of the rock is darker, to suggest it's wet.

I'm not sure if I like the direction is heading in now, the man made objects
have altered the scene... What do you think?

Next I plan on having a play with trees and then maybe a character, but I'm
fairly happy with this little project so pretty soon I'll start a zazzle-sized
render of it and move on with something else (probably when the next irtc topic
is announced).

All suggestions are welcome.

--
Tek
http://www.evilsuperbrain.com


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From: Chris Amshey
Subject: Re: Grassy julia v3
Date: 22 Jun 2003 15:50:02
Message: <web.3ef6082ab30c05f961b99e900@news.povray.org>
Tek wrote:
>I've added a parasol and deck chair, and improved the texturing on the rock.
>Note the very bottom of the rock is darker, to suggest it's wet.
>
>I'm not sure if I like the direction is heading in now, the man made objects
>have altered the scene... What do you think?
>
I might use more muted colors for the parasol - the bright red and blue is
fighting for predominance with the green grass.

I think though, that if it were my scene I'd keep it free of man-made
objects, and
work on trees (or a tree) and maybe a seagull or dolphin. It definitely
loses some
wildness by dropping consumer items in, and it fixes the scale very
precisely for
the viewer.

It is, however, a very cool image, but I think you've heard that once or
twice
before. ;)

--Chris


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From: ingo
Subject: Re: Grassy julia v3
Date: 22 Jun 2003 16:17:58
Message: <Xns93A2E36CEB49seed7@povray.org>
in news:3ef5f650@news.povray.org Tek wrote:

> I'm not sure if I like the direction is heading in now, the man made
> objects have altered the scene... What do you think?
> 

I agree, it makes the scene too "nice/lovely" and it looses something of 
its surrealism. Mmm a thought, how about Tiger Woods taking a swing with a 
big driver towards the coastline?

Ingo


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From: Tek
Subject: Re: Grassy julia v3
Date: 22 Jun 2003 16:50:03
Message: <3ef6167b$1@news.povray.org>
I think that would have the same problem. I think I need to step back and think
of what surreal things I can add to it.

--
Tek
http://www.evilsuperbrain.com

"ingo" <ing### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message
news:Xns### [at] povrayorg...
> in news:3ef5f650@news.povray.org Tek wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure if I like the direction is heading in now, the man made
> > objects have altered the scene... What do you think?
> >
>
> I agree, it makes the scene too "nice/lovely" and it looses something of
> its surrealism. Mmm a thought, how about Tiger Woods taking a swing with a
> big driver towards the coastline?
>
> Ingo


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From: Chris Johnson
Subject: Re: Grassy julia v3
Date: 22 Jun 2003 17:21:19
Message: <3ef61dcf$1@news.povray.org>
I think I agree about man-made objects changing the scene for the worse. The
deckchair is possibly OK, but I don't like the parasol at all :(.

It does need some sort of focus though... perhaps a rabbit (skipping away
from the camera rather than sitting on its haunches looking cute I would
have thought). Or perhaps keep the deckchair but have a walking stick
leaning against it?

I'm not sure... its always hard to see what to add when the initial image is
so good. It has a very definite 'feel' to it that you don't want to lose.


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From: Davey B
Subject: Re: Grassy julia v3
Date: 22 Jun 2003 18:13:51
Message: <3ef62a1f$1@news.povray.org>
Hi there Tek

When I first saw this I thought it was great as it was but ppl were asking
for more... the first thing that popped into my head was too put a full
sized man sat on the island (it already has a sort of a chair shape to it).

Dont know if it would work or not... just think it would make it feel like
an isolated island for someone who is after solitude...

Just my thoughts ;)

Keep up the good work..

Dave


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From: Slime
Subject: Re: Grassy julia v3
Date: 22 Jun 2003 18:15:58
Message: <3ef62a9e@news.povray.org>
> I think I agree about man-made objects changing the scene for the worse.
The
> deckchair is possibly OK, but I don't like the parasol at all :(.
>
> It does need some sort of focus though...

I completely agree with all of the above. Especially the parasol bit =)

 - Slime
[ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]


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From: Tek
Subject: Re: Grassy julia v3
Date: 22 Jun 2003 18:39:13
Message: <3ef63011$1@news.povray.org>
"Slime" <slm### [at] slimelandcom> wrote in message news:3ef62a9e@news.povray.org...
> > I think I agree about man-made objects changing the scene for the worse.
> The
> > deckchair is possibly OK, but I don't like the parasol at all :(.
> >
> > It does need some sort of focus though...
>
> I completely agree with all of the above. Especially the parasol bit =)

Fair enough, the parasol was only a few minutes work anyway.

I'm currently rendering a test scene with a different shaped image (3:2 ratio,
suitable for a zazzle poster), and without the chair or parasol. And now it
looks a bit empty...
I think I might put something in the water, to lead the eye from the fractal to
the mountains.

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Tek
http://www.evilsuperbrain.com


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From: Tek
Subject: Re: Grassy julia v3
Date: 22 Jun 2003 18:44:36
Message: <3ef63154$1@news.povray.org>
"Chris Amshey" <my last name at thecia dot net> wrote in message
news:web.3ef6082ab30c05f961b99e900@news.povray.org...
> I might use more muted colors for the parasol - the bright red and blue is
> fighting for predominance with the green grass.

The more I look at it (and read comments) I can't see any way for the parasol to
fit. I tried other colours before deciding on these (initially it was bright
yellow and red!).

> I think though, that if it were my scene I'd keep it free of man-made
> objects, and
> work on trees (or a tree) and maybe a seagull or dolphin. It definitely
> loses some
> wildness by dropping consumer items in, and it fixes the scale very
> precisely for
> the viewer.

I agree. I like the seagull and dolphin ideas, though I think only one or the
other, to keep the scene simple. The tree is definitely worth trying, I'll drop
one of the maketree examples into the scene and see how it looks.

> It is, however, a very cool image, but I think you've heard that once or
> twice
> before. ;)

:) yes, but I'll never get tired of hearing it.
I'm glad people like this image so much, it had been in my head for a long time
and I only decided to realise (surrealise) it out of shear boredom.

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Tek
http://www.evilsuperbrain.com


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From: Tek
Subject: Re: Grassy julia v3
Date: 22 Jun 2003 18:46:46
Message: <3ef631d6@news.povray.org>
I think if I put anyone on the island I'll sit them in the deck chair, but for
now I want to move away from man and man-made objects. Though your suggestion is
an interesting one, I'll bear it in mind.

--
Tek
http://www.evilsuperbrain.com


"Davey B" <kryten@*remove*totalise.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3ef62a1f$1@news.povray.org...
> Hi there Tek
>
> When I first saw this I thought it was great as it was but ppl were asking
> for more... the first thing that popped into my head was too put a full
> sized man sat on the island (it already has a sort of a chair shape to it).
>
> Dont know if it would work or not... just think it would make it feel like
> an isolated island for someone who is after solitude...
>
> Just my thoughts ;)
>
> Keep up the good work..
>
> Dave
>
>


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