I posted this ship a while ago, and got some feedback.  Here's a new version.


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"Tailkinker" <gro### [at] yahoocouk> wrote in message
news:pan### [at] yahoocouk...
> I posted this ship a while ago, and got some feedback.  Here's a new
version.

Constructive criticism:

If it was me, I'd work on the texturing.  Real objects of that scale
wouldn't have such surface shine.  It looks like a plastic model.

The two forward windows are a little too simple.  They would have some shine
to them, and the corners would probably not be handled that way in real
life.

Otherwise, I like it. There's enough detail to make it look interesting, and
"real world"

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On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 10:48:42 -0500, Dave VanHorn wrote:

> 
> "Tailkinker" <gro### [at] yahoocouk> wrote in message
> news:pan### [at] yahoocouk...
>> I posted this ship a while ago, and got some feedback.  Here's a new
> version.
> 
> Constructive criticism:
> 
> If it was me, I'd work on the texturing.  Real objects of that scale
> wouldn't have such surface shine.  It looks like a plastic model.

Some amount of shine would be required, just by the physics of a
spacecraft.  But you're right;  a reduced amount would look better.

> The two forward windows are a little too simple.  They would have some
> shine to them, and the corners would probably not be handled that way in
> real life.

Angle is bad for the shine, but it should be the equal of the other
windows and the bridge;  and I cheated slightly on making the windows
in the first place.  Perhaps a few extra objects just to bulk the windows
out a bit around the corners...

> Otherwise, I like it. There's enough detail to make it look interesting,
> and "real world"

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Tailkinker wrote:
> I posted this ship a while ago, and got some feedback.  Here's a new version.
> 
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> M#!D2$P\4'1H?'AT:'!P@)"XG("(L(QP<*#<I+#`Q-#0T'R<Y/3@R/"XS-#+_
[snip a lot more lines]
> end

I cannot see that image in Mozilla Mail/News. AFAIK MailNews needs each 
image to be a separate part in a multipart message (that's what the MIME 
standard was created for anyway), inline Base64 encoded images won't 
work. Decoding such images manually after cut&paste is no big problem as 
long as I won't have to do it more than once or twice a day :-)

Is there any consensus in this group on how images should be posted? I'm 
asking because Mozilla Mail/News is surely not a very rarely used 
newsclient, so it might affect other people, too. (Don't know about 
outlook, I've never really used that piece of sh^Hoftware)

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x)(Q a(f(Lt(Car x))(Cdr x))))(f(Gt(Car x))(Cdr x)))))

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Mozilla here too, I can't see it.

> Decoding such images manually after cut&paste
> is no big problem as long as I won't have to do
> it more than once or twice a day :-)

Just out of curiosity, how do you covert the text
to .jpg ?

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Phil

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Phil Clute wrote:

> Mozilla here too, I can't see it.
> 
>> Decoding such images manually after cut&paste
>> is no big problem as long as I won't have to do
>> it more than once or twice a day :-)
> 
> Just out of curiosity, how do you covert the text
> to .jpg ?
> 
it used to be uudecode iirc, but that's going way back and I don't seem to
have it on my current (Linux) system. I remember seeing a perl impl in the 
old camel book. It's basically just a base 64 encoding (again iirc :-)
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Bill Hails

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Bill Hails wrote:
> Phil Clute wrote:
> 
> 
>>Mozilla here too, I can't see it.
>>
>>
>>>Decoding such images manually after cut&paste
>>>is no big problem as long as I won't have to do
>>>it more than once or twice a day :-)
>>
>>Just out of curiosity, how do you covert the text
>>to .jpg ?
>>
> 
> it used to be uudecode iirc, but that's going way back and I don't seem to
> have it on my current (Linux) system. I remember seeing a perl impl in the 
> old camel book. It's basically just a base 64 encoding (again iirc :-)

Yes it's Base64. I wonder why your Linux system does seem to lack it, 
because uuencode/uudecode is defined by POSIX and thus should be part of 
any more-or-less POSIX compliant systems (and Linux _is_ definitely 
sufficiently POSIX-compliant). At least the man-page on the Redhat 7.3 
box I'm currently sitting in front of says so.

Anyway, for all the other OSes (non-Unix) one can surely find some 
(GUI-)Tools which help with converting such encodings.

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(Cdr x)))))(defun q(x)(Q nil x))(defun Q(a x)(If(Eq x nil)a(Q(Cons(Car
x)(Q a(f(Lt(Car x))(Cdr x))))(f(Gt(Car x))(Cdr x)))))

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On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 19:31:28 +0200
Timon Christl <me### [at] christltimonde> wrote:

> I cannot see that image in Mozilla Mail/News. AFAIK MailNews
> needs each image to be a separate part in a multipart message
> (that's what the MIME standard was created for anyway), inline
> Base64 encoded images won't work. Decoding such images manually
> after cut&paste is no big problem as long as I won't have to do
> it more than once or twice a day :-)

I was quite frustrated with cut-paste-decode-view cycles for such
posts until I switched to [Sylpheed mail/news client + UUDeview]
combo.  Since then I don't care whether the images are inline or
otherwise.

UUDeview is nice -- it's available for *nix and Windoze, it can
decode multiple encoded files in a single message, single file
split in multiple messages, it supports many encodings, it has GUI as
well as commandline version, etc.

-Kedar

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On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 11:07:20 +0530, Kedar Patil wrote:

> I was quite frustrated with cut-paste-decode-view cycles for such posts
> until I switched to [Sylpheed mail/news client + UUDeview] combo.  Since
> then I don't care whether the images are inline or otherwise.
> 
> UUDeview is nice -- it's available for *nix and Windoze, it can decode
> multiple encoded files in a single message, single file split in multiple
> messages, it supports many encodings, it has GUI as well as commandline
> version, etc.

Yes, it's very nice...I used the accompanying tool, uuenview, to post
images with, as my mail client sucks^H^H^H^H^Hdoesn't allow attachments.

Oh, and here's another pic of the ship, with some of the C&C considered
and added in...better, guys?


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