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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Cathedral (75kbu)
Date: 19 Mar 2003 15:16:02
Message: <3e78d002@news.povray.org>
I've been working on this on and off for a few months.

Figure, clothing and wings from poser, cross and candlesticks
modelled in rhino.

Comments?

Gail
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cos(S/pi)*(H>6)>*18][.4rgb 0]}}translate<H-5S-3,9>}#end G(3,5)G(2,5.5)G(1,5)
G(.6,4)G(.5,3)G(.6,2)G(1,1)G(2,.5)G(3,.7)G(3.2,1.6)G(3.1,2.5)G(2.2,2.5)G(9,5
)G(8,5.5)G(7,5)G(7,4)G(7.7,3.3)G(8.3,2.7)G(9,2)G(9,1)G(8,.5)G(7,1)///GS


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Another angle (77kbu)
Date: 19 Mar 2003 15:25:42
Message: <3e78d246@news.povray.org>
And from another angle

Gail
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#macro G(H,S)disc{0z.4pigment{onion color_map{[0rgb<sin(H/pi)cos(S/pi)*(H<6)
cos(S/pi)*(H>6)>*18][.4rgb 0]}}translate<H-5S-3,9>}#end G(3,5)G(2,5.5)G(1,5)
G(.6,4)G(.5,3)G(.6,2)G(1,1)G(2,.5)G(3,.7)G(3.2,1.6)G(3.1,2.5)G(2.2,2.5)G(9,5
)G(8,5.5)G(7,5)G(7,4)G(7.7,3.3)G(8.3,2.7)G(9,2)G(9,1)G(8,.5)G(7,1)///GS


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From: Slashdolt
Subject: Re: Another angle (77kbu)
Date: 19 Mar 2003 15:30:59
Message: <3e78d383$1@news.povray.org>
First off, I think it's quite impressive.

However, since you asked for comments...

The stained glass "projections" are nifty, but probably not realistic.  Even
if the stained glass was perfectly smooth, you still wouldn't get
"projections" like that.  By projections, I mean something like a projector
onto a movie screen.  An area-light would help, as would a normal on the
stained glass surfaces.

Hope that helps!

--
Slash


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From: Lutz-Peter Hooge
Subject: Re: Cathedral (75kbu)
Date: 19 Mar 2003 16:25:43
Message: <3e78e057@news.povray.org>
Gail Shaw <gai### [at] mwebcoza> wrote:

> Figure, clothing and wings from poser, cross and candlesticks
> modelled in rhino.
>
> Comments?

Ok:
The first image IMHO is too dark, need an gamme adjustment of
~1.2-1.3 to look correct on my monitor.
The shadows should be softer, also the flames and wicks(?) of the
candles don't cast shadows (with soft shadows this probably 
won't be so visible anymore).

In the second image the candles seem to be the 
main light source, but the flames themselfes do not look bright
enough for this (add a glowing effect?).

Lutz-Peter


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From: Andrew Coppin
Subject: Re: Cathedral (75kbu)
Date: 19 Mar 2003 16:36:18
Message: <3e78e2d2@news.povray.org>
Wow.

I can see why this would take months...

Awesome!!!!
Andrew.


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From: Marc Jacquier
Subject: Re: Another angle (77kbu)
Date: 19 Mar 2003 17:47:14
Message: <3e78f372@news.povray.org>

3e78d383$1@news.povray.org...
> First off, I think it's quite impressive.

I agree

> The stained glass "projections" are nifty, but probably not realistic.
Even
> if the stained glass was perfectly smooth, you still wouldn't get
> "projections" like that.  By projections, I mean something like a
projector
> onto a movie screen.  An area-light would help, as would a normal on the
> stained glass surfaces.

Don't forget interior and IOR

>
> Hope that helps!

So do I :)


Marc


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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: Cathedral (75kbu)
Date: 19 Mar 2003 22:22:19
Message: <3E793354.9050009@videotron.ca>
Program ended abnormally on 3/19/03 3:15 PM, Due to a catastrophic Gail
Shaw error:
> I've been working on this on and off for a few months.
> 
> Figure, clothing and wings from poser, cross and candlesticks
> modelled in rhino.
> 
> Comments?

Very good.  No nitpicks on the composition.

As with others, I think the projections from the windows are way too crisp. 
Secondly, the light from the four candles is too bright compared to the light 
coming from outside.

By upping the intensity of the outside light (and using area lights) and by 
using fade_distanceon the candles, I think you'll achieve a more realistic image.
> 
> Gail
> --
> #macro G(H,S)disc{0z.4pigment{onion color_map{[0rgb<sin(H/pi)cos(S/pi)*(H<6)
> cos(S/pi)*(H>6)>*18][.4rgb 0]}}translate<H-5S-3,9>}#end G(3,5)G(2,5.5)G(1,5)
> G(.6,4)G(.5,3)G(.6,2)G(1,1)G(2,.5)G(3,.7)G(3.2,1.6)G(3.1,2.5)G(2.2,2.5)G(9,5
> )G(8,5.5)G(7,5)G(7,4)G(7.7,3.3)G(8.3,2.7)G(9,2)G(9,1)G(8,.5)G(7,1)///GS
> 
> 
> 
> 


-- 
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From: Marc Jacquier
Subject: Re: Cathedral (75kbu)
Date: 20 Mar 2003 02:56:04
Message: <3e797414@news.povray.org>

news: 3E7### [at] videotronca...
>
>
>
> As with others, I think the projections from the windows are way too
crisp.
> Secondly, the light from the four candles is too bright compared to the
light
> coming from outside.
>
> >
>
a skysphere or equivalent luminous background could help making stained
glass more visible as well


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From: Ross Litscher
Subject: Re: Another angle (77kbu)
Date: 20 Mar 2003 11:42:46
Message: <3e79ef86$1@news.povray.org>
i think this looks much better. the other angle, er angel ... um ;)  The
other image looked to dark and hid some good detail


ross


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Another angle (77kbu)
Date: 20 Mar 2003 14:44:09
Message: <3e7a1a09@news.povray.org>
"Slashdolt" <jer### [at] questsoftwarecom> wrote in message
news:3e78d383$1@news.povray.org...
> First off, I think it's quite impressive.
>
> However, since you asked for comments...
>
> The stained glass "projections" are nifty, but probably not realistic.
Even
> if the stained glass was perfectly smooth, you still wouldn't get
> "projections" like that.  By projections, I mean something like a
projector
> onto a movie screen.  An area-light would help, as would a normal on the
> stained glass surfaces.
>

There's already a normal on the window. I'll try some ior
and area_lights. After all it only takes 8 hrs to render at the
moment. <grin>

Gail
--
#macro G(H,S)disc{0z.4pigment{onion color_map{[0rgb<sin(H/pi)cos(S/pi)*(H<6)
cos(S/pi)*(H>6)>*18][.4rgb 0]}}translate<H-5S-3,9>}#end G(3,5)G(2,5.5)G(1,5)
G(.6,4)G(.5,3)G(.6,2)G(1,1)G(2,.5)G(3,.7)G(3.2,1.6)G(3.1,2.5)G(2.2,2.5)G(9,5
)G(8,5.5)G(7,5)G(7,4)G(7.7,3.3)G(8.3,2.7)G(9,2)G(9,1)G(8,.5)G(7,1)///GS


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