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From: Zeger Knaepen
Subject: caustics with radiosity?
Date: 28 Dec 2002 22:55:44
Message: <3e0e7240$1@news.povray.org>
It seems to be more or less possible.
Why is there an upper-limit of 1600 for radiosity-samples?

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From: Zeger Knaepen
Subject: Re: caustics with radiosity?
Date: 28 Dec 2002 23:05:45
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reproduction of the image using photons...

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From: The Mad Hatter
Subject: Re: caustics with radiosity?
Date: 29 Dec 2002 00:45:03
Message: <web.3e0e8b5643114ef05798b2cc0@news.povray.org>
It seems very, very, dark.


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From: Rafal 'Raf256' Maj
Subject: Re: caustics with radiosity?
Date: 29 Dec 2002 01:30:38
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"Zeger Knaepen" <zeg### [at] studentkuleuvenacbe> wrote in
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Many small black dots on top and base of this cylinder is an error, move 
Your's glass i.e.:
  translate -y*0.00001


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: caustics with radiosity?
Date: 29 Dec 2002 07:36:58
Message: <3E0EEC6A.7B42D7F9@gmx.de>
Zeger Knaepen wrote:
> 
> It seems to be more or less possible.
> Why is there an upper-limit of 1600 for radiosity-samples?

Because it uses a fixed table for the sample directions.  If you know a
way for generating an arbitrary number of sample directions on the fly
with random yet uniform distribution (and cos theta density distribution)
you are welcome to share it... ;-)

Christoph

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From: Rafal 'Raf256' Maj
Subject: Re: caustics with radiosity?
Date: 29 Dec 2002 07:44:49
Message: <Xns92F38B8FF3898raf256com@204.213.191.226>
Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde> wrote in 
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>> Why is there an upper-limit of 1600 for radiosity-samples?
> Because it uses a fixed table for the sample directions.

Algorithm that was used to generate 1600 elements fixed array - can it be 
used to generate i.e. 20,000 fixed elements array ?


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#macro g(U,V)(.4*abs(sin(9*sqrt(pow(x-U,2)+pow(y-V,2))))*pow(1-min(1,(sqrt(
pow(x-U,2)+pow(y-V,2))*.3)),2)+.9)#end#macro p(c)#if(c>1)#local l=mod(c,100
);g(2*div(l,10)-8,2*mod(l,10)-8)*p(div(c,100))#else 1#end#end light_source{
y 2}sphere{z*20 9pigment{function{p(26252423)*p(36455644)*p(66656463)}}}//M


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From: Zeger Knaepen
Subject: Re: caustics with radiosity?
Date: 29 Dec 2002 08:39:04
Message: <3e0efaf8@news.povray.org>
> Many small black dots on top and base of this cylinder is an error, move
> Your's glass i.e.:
>   translate -y*0.00001

I know :-)

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From: Zeger Knaepen
Subject: Re: caustics with radiosity?
Date: 29 Dec 2002 08:40:45
Message: <3e0efb5d@news.povray.org>
"Christoph Hormann" <chr### [at] gmxde> schreef in bericht
news:3E0EEC6A.7B42D7F9@gmx.de...
> Zeger Knaepen wrote:
> > It seems to be more or less possible.
> > Why is there an upper-limit of 1600 for radiosity-samples?
>
> Because it uses a fixed table for the sample directions.  If you know a
> way for generating an arbitrary number of sample directions on the fly
> with random yet uniform distribution (and cos theta density distribution)
> you are welcome to share it... ;-)

Why is a fixed table necessary?

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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: caustics with radiosity?
Date: 29 Dec 2002 10:31:58
Message: <3E0F156E.AB321B83@gmx.de>
Zeger Knaepen wrote:
> 
> > Because it uses a fixed table for the sample directions.  If you know a
> > way for generating an arbitrary number of sample directions on the fly
> > with random yet uniform distribution (and cos theta density distribution)
> > you are welcome to share it... ;-)
> 
> Why is a fixed table necessary?

Have you read what i wrote?

I don't know a method to generate such a distribution in high quality that
would be fast enough to be run before every render - if you do feel free
to implement it. 

Christoph

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From: Anders K 
Subject: Re: caustics with radiosity?
Date: 29 Dec 2002 10:40:53
Message: <3e0f1785@news.povray.org>
Christoph Hormann wrote:
> Because it uses a fixed table for the sample directions.  If you know a
> way for generating an arbitrary number of sample directions on the fly
> with random yet uniform distribution (and cos theta density distribution)
> you are welcome to share it... ;-)

Actually, that's easy, if I understand the question correctly: let (x, y) be
a random point in the unit circle (x^2 + y^2 <= 1), and let z = sqrt(1 -
x^2 - y^2).

Anders

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