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From: Gilles Tran
Subject: The dark side of the trees (121 kbu)
Date: 22 Jul 2002 17:01:35
Message: <3d3c72af@news.povray.org>
Jpeg compression wasn't too kind on this one :( Well I'll put some close-ups
and details on my site sometimes in the next months.

- Rendered with povray 3.5
- Uses low quality radiosity (count 10 error_bound 1...)
- Terragen sky
- Terrain modelled with World Machine (beta)
http://students.washington.edu/sschmitt/world/ (great prog, BTW)
- Render time at 1200*1600 takes 6 hours and 600 MB of RAM (P4, 1.7Gz, 1Gb
RAM)
- 15000 plants with something like 20 different Xfrog models, all by me
except the main tree, the small bushes and trees in the background, and some
grass. The "evil" tree is by me too. 2000 leaves and twigs in the pond.
Possibly I'll make some of the plants available later this year.
- The hardest part was to create the backlit leaves for the main tree. For
this I had to make "fleshy" leaves and fill them with scattering media. I
wish I could have done it on all the plants, but either I'll wait for faster
machines or find a better solution for backlit translucent material. Some of
the flowers were double_illuminated.
- Dragonflies modelled in Rhino with the demo version (before I bought it).
They'll surely look better at the final full res of 6000*8000 which is
rendering now.
- The frog is a Poser one. It's almost invisible at 600*800 but it's
there...
- Regrets : the lighting. I had a lot of trouble with it, as the original
image
is not very gamma-tolerant : it looked ugly on low-gamma monitors and much
too dark on others. I had to find a middle way so I tweaked the tones in
post-process and some colors were lost (and there's some extra graininess
too). I hope it looks right on your PC or Mac.

G.

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From: Spider
Subject: Re: The dark side of the trees (121 kbu)
Date: 22 Jul 2002 17:11:37
Message: <pan.2002.07.22.21.10.45.501971.20256@Darkmere.wanfear.com>
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 23:05:20 +0200, Gilles Tran wrote:

> 
> Jpeg compression wasn't too kind on this one :( Well I'll put some close-ups
> and details on my site sometimes in the next months.

*Whow*

Really stunning and lovely. I'd love to see higher resolution shots and
more details, awaiting in anticipation 

//Spider


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From: Julien Gourdon
Subject: Re: The dark side of the trees (121 kbu)
Date: 22 Jul 2002 17:15:32
Message: <3D3C7616.1030109@cnedra.org>
Oh my...

Gilles Tran wrote:

[...]

> - Regrets : the lighting. I had a lot of trouble with it, as the original
> image is not very gamma-tolerant : it looked ugly on low-gamma monitors and much
> too dark on others. I had to find a middle way so I tweaked the tones in
> post-process and some colors were lost (and there's some extra graininess
> too). I hope it looks right on your PC or Mac.

Please, no regrets... This image is awesome...
Will we be able to download a full rendering, for wallpaper ? :))

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From: Rafal 'Raf256' Maj
Subject: Re: The dark side of the trees (121 kbu)
Date: 22 Jul 2002 17:45:12
Message: <Xns9253F10FF5429raf256com@204.213.191.226>
"Gilles Tran" <tra### [at] inapginrafr> wrote in news:3d3c72af@news.povray.org

very nice :)


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From: Hugo
Subject: Re: The dark side of the trees (121 kbu)
Date: 22 Jul 2002 17:47:29
Message: <3d3c7d71$1@news.povray.org>
*ding ding* eyes opened!  Noouurrh!  :o))  I opened this image before I read
who posted it, so the surprise was total! Well done Gilles!  This had to
come from you.

I don't have any critics this time.


Regards,
Hugo


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: The dark side of the trees (121 kbu)
Date: 22 Jul 2002 18:01:41
Message: <3D3C80C4.913AEDD9@gmx.de>
Gilles Tran wrote:
> 
> [...]
> - Render time at 1200*1600 takes 6 hours and 600 MB of RAM (P4, 1.7Gz, 1Gb
> RAM)

You are really lucky.  I'm currently at 3 days, 7 hours for 800x600... ;-)

It's impressive as usual.  I am looking forward to the detail views.

> [...]
> - The hardest part was to create the backlit leaves for the main tree. For
> this I had to make "fleshy" leaves and fill them with scattering media. I
> wish I could have done it on all the plants, but either I'll wait for faster
> machines or find a better solution for backlit translucent material. Some of
> the flowers were double_illuminated.

It looks quite good for a view facing the sun, i know this can be really
hard.  Anyway i suppose a larger render will reveal some more problems in
that concern.

> [...]
> - Regrets : the lighting. I had a lot of trouble with it, as the original
> image
> is not very gamma-tolerant : it looked ugly on low-gamma monitors and much
> too dark on others. I had to find a middle way so I tweaked the tones in
> post-process and some colors were lost (and there's some extra graininess
> too). I hope it looks right on your PC or Mac.

It looks all right here.  Recently i have been rendering a lot of scenes
with 16 bit output and adjusting things afterwards, there is no quality
loss compared to the direct gamma corrected render this way.

One critique: the disturbance in the water resulting in a blur of the
reflection is strangely patterned, there seem to be very abrupt changes
from flat to disturbed surface.

Christoph

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From: JRG
Subject: Re: The dark side of the trees (121 kbu)
Date: 22 Jul 2002 18:13:51
Message: <3d3c839f$1@news.povray.org>
"Gilles Tran" wrote:

<faints>

This is one of the most photorealistic and beautiful works I've ever seen.
Everything's just marvelous, and I love the theme too.
The plants on the foreground show your unbelievable attention to detail.
The contrast between the tree and the sky is absolutely photolike, as you've shown
elsewhere, the combo Terragen + POV-Ray can lead to awesome results.
I can just hardly notice some moire patterns on the pond, but maybe it's due to the
JPEG compression.

This will make it into an outstanding zazzle poster I hope.


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From: JRG
Subject: Re: The dark side of the trees (121 kbu)
Date: 22 Jul 2002 18:19:07
Message: <3d3c84db$1@news.povray.org>
"Julien Gourdon" wrote:
> Oh my...
>
> Gilles Tran wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > - Regrets : the lighting. I had a lot of trouble with it, as the original
> > image is not very gamma-tolerant : it looked ugly on low-gamma monitors and much
> > too dark on others. I had to find a middle way so I tweaked the tones in
> > post-process and some colors were lost (and there's some extra graininess
> > too). I hope it looks right on your PC or Mac.
>
> Please, no regrets... This image is awesome...
> Will we be able to download a full rendering, for wallpaper ? :))

More likely we'll be able to purchase the poster from zazzle... most of his works are
worth it though. :-)

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Jonathan.


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From: Sean Johnson
Subject: Re: The dark side of the trees (121 kbu)
Date: 22 Jul 2002 18:36:09
Message: <3d3c88d9$1@news.povray.org>
Incredible.


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From: Apache
Subject: Re: The dark side of the trees (121 kbu)
Date: 22 Jul 2002 18:37:37
Message: <3d3c8931@news.povray.org>
Yes, please render a 80000 x 60000 pixel version for me. I'll print it and
hang it somewhere in my room.
"Julien Gourdon" <jul### [at] cnedraorg> wrote in message
news:3D3### [at] cnedraorg...
> Oh my...
>
> Gilles Tran wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > - Regrets : the lighting. I had a lot of trouble with it, as the
original
> > image is not very gamma-tolerant : it looked ugly on low-gamma monitors
and much
> > too dark on others. I had to find a middle way so I tweaked the tones in
> > post-process and some colors were lost (and there's some extra
graininess
> > too). I hope it looks right on your PC or Mac.
>
> Please, no regrets... This image is awesome...
> Will we be able to download a full rendering, for wallpaper ? :))
>
> --
> Jul### [at] cnedraorg
> http://www.cnedra.org
>


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