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From: Wolfgang Manousek
Subject: Re: Not for sale anymore (120 kbu)
Date: 16 May 2002 06:56:51
Message: <3ce39073$1@news.povray.org>
Gilles - I hate you ;-)

well, not really - your images teach me each time my limits in imagination
and technical realisation ...
your image is impressive as usual


Wolfgang


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From: ingo
Subject: Re: Not for sale anymore (120 kbu) (1/1)
Date: 16 May 2002 07:06:01
Message: <Xns921085C252FBCseed7@povray.org>
in news:DsjiPCazuvsuNqyThQYZf0QwGI7s@4ax.com Glen Berry wrote:

> Attachment saved: C:\TEMP\Not_4_Sale_fog.jpg
> 

The foggy one looks better than the blurred one. 
The blurred one looks a bit strange to me. To get that amount of blur at 
that position in a photo, you'd have to use a big telelens. Then the 
forground would also be blurred. Also the 'perspective' doesn't match with 
a telephoto.

Ingo


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From: Gilles Tran
Subject: Re: Not for sale anymore (120 kbu)
Date: 16 May 2002 07:58:01
Message: <3ce39ec9$1@news.povray.org>

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> that don't seem to be atached to anything,
> though I'm sure in the full sized image they are just attached to very
small
> twigs.

No you're right. There are some tiny twigs but looking closer I can see now
that some leaves actually float in the air. Weird. I'll have to check the
model.

G.


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From: Glen Berry
Subject: Re: Not for sale anymore (120 kbu) (1/1)
Date: 16 May 2002 11:06:27
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From: Gilles Tran
Subject: Re: Not for sale anymore (120 kbu) (1/1)
Date: 16 May 2002 11:36:26
Message: <3ce3d1fa@news.povray.org>

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> You have made me curious about something. I would like to know what
> camera angle Gilles used in this scene? I think the angle of view is
> perhaps more "telephoto-ish" than you might think.



camera {    location  <0, 1, -9>
  direction z*1
  sky       y
  up        y
  right     x*image_width/image_height
  look_at   <0,2.5,0>
  translate -x
}
I did play with smaller angles but I wanted the upper sky to show up.

G.

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>
> later,
> Glen
>
>
> Later,
> Glen
>
> 7no### [at] ezwvcom     (Remove the numeral "7")


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From: Glen Berry
Subject: Re: Not for sale anymore (120 kbu) (1/1)
Date: 16 May 2002 12:52:10
Message: <Ld7jPJT1Hiw1qvpBZEmV2qvk5VD3@4ax.com>


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From: ingo
Subject: Re: Not for sale anymore (120 kbu) (1/1)
Date: 16 May 2002 13:20:27
Message: <Xns9210C53D7EC18seed7@povray.org>
in news:Ld7jPJT1Hiw1qvpBZEmV2qvk5VD3@4ax.com Glen Berry wrote:

> On Thu, 16 May 2002 17:36:52 +0200, "Gilles Tran" <tra### [at] inapginrafr>
> wrote:
> 

>>
>>camera {    location  <0, 1, -9>
>>  direction z*1
>>  sky       y
>>  up        y
>>  right     x*image_width/image_height
>>  look_at   <0,2.5,0>
>>  translate -x
>>}
>>I did play with smaller angles but I wanted the upper sky to show up.
> 
> Since you didn't specify angle with the angle keyword, I'm assuming

> 

the default angle:
 ~67.380 (direction_length=0.5*right_length/tan(angle/2))

in this image that would be the vertical angle.

Ingo


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From: Glen Berry
Subject: Re: Not for sale anymore (120 kbu) (1/1)
Date: 16 May 2002 13:30:18
Message: <C+vjPEcZkwirthwHPTNSSxwgE4zg@4ax.com>


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From: ingo
Subject: Re: Not for sale anymore (120 kbu) (1/1)
Date: 16 May 2002 13:33:44
Message: <Xns9210C77E41321seed7@povray.org>
in news:XcXjPBsriyKH8vQxmIfuefbvVqsc@4ax.com Glen Berry wrote:

> You would need a large lens aperture, however.
>

One of the nice things of POV-Ray, one can use extreme apertures. A 17mm 
lens with a DOF of a few mm's.

> Of course this was only a rough simulation, and was not intended to be
> an accurate modeling of any particular lens focal length and aperture
> combination.

I know. Else I would have complained about the lack of blurr on the 
mountains above the 2CV :)
 
> You have made me curious about something. I would like to know what
> camera angle Gilles used in this scene? I think the angle of view is
> perhaps more "telephoto-ish" than you might think.
> 

Wouldn't be fair to guess/answer that now, after reading the other posts 
on the subject.

Ingo


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From: Gilles Tran
Subject: Re: Not for sale anymore (120 kbu) (1/1)
Date: 16 May 2002 13:39:17
Message: <3ce3eec5$1@news.povray.org>

Ld7jPJT1Hiw1qvpBZEmV2qvk5VD3@4ax.com...
> Since you didn't specify angle with the angle keyword, I'm assuming



Not that I'm sure of what it means anyway, which is why I keep using
"direction" instead...

G.

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