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From: Corey Woodworth
Subject: Not a Rolex [WIP]
Date: 7 Apr 2002 17:43:49
Message: <3cb0bd95@news.povray.org>
I'm trying to make an old pocket watch. I'm not quite sure how I'm going to
do the hands. I could cheat and use a transparent image map on a disc, but I
suppose I should do a prism (ugh, I don't like making splines) I'd like to
make the whole thing look older though. Some corrosion and maybe even broken
glass. Has anyone done broken glass before? The only way I could see doing
it is to difference a webish looking shape with the glass. That'd be hard to
model though.

Any critiques or ideas for further development are greatly appreciated!

Corey


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From: Kzerphii Toomk
Subject: Re: Not a Rolex [WIP]
Date: 7 Apr 2002 17:52:08
Message: <3cb0bf88@news.povray.org>
Nice project.

Don't put hands...
Here's no time passing... It's very well... ;-)

To create a broken glass, you could use CSG
with difference beetween a semi-sphere or
rotational and an heightfield.

KT (France)


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From: Corey Woodworth
Subject: Re: Not a Rolex [WIP]
Date: 7 Apr 2002 18:09:56
Message: <3cb0c3b4@news.povray.org>
"Kzerphii Toomk" <Kze### [at] Wanadoofr> wrote in message
news:3cb0bf88@news.povray.org...
> Nice project.
>
> Don't put hands...
> Here's no time passing... It's very well... ;-)

Interesting idea! I might do that but I did kinda wanna animate the hands
spinning :)

> To create a broken glass, you could use CSG
> with difference beetween a semi-sphere or
> rotational and an heightfield.

DOH! I should have thought of that. I did something similar for chipping
paint on a wall once. THANKS!

> KT (France)

Corey


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From: Lieut Data
Subject: Re: Not a Rolex [WIP]
Date: 7 Apr 2002 20:04:19
Message: <3cb0de83$1@news.povray.org>
"Corey Woodworth" <cdw### [at] mpinetnet> wrote in message
news:3cb0bd95@news.povray.org...
> (ugh, I don't like making splines)

Is that because you can't figure out where your control points / nodes
should be?

Would a visual tool that created 2D splines for use in lathes, sors, prisms
be helpful? I am in the progress of playing around with such a tool, written
in VB, but am not sure if there would be much interest besides my own sense
of accomplishment.

Cheers!

Lieut_Data


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From: Corey Woodworth
Subject: Re: Not a Rolex [WIP]
Date: 7 Apr 2002 20:09:49
Message: <3cb0dfcd$1@news.povray.org>
"Lieut_Data" <lIe### [at] yahOOcom> wrote in message
news:3cb0de83$1@news.povray.org...
> "Corey Woodworth" <cdw### [at] mpinetnet> wrote in message
> news:3cb0bd95@news.povray.org...
> > (ugh, I don't like making splines)
>
> Is that because you can't figure out where your control points / nodes
> should be?

not really. I just the route work. Its the boring part of POV to me.
And there is no preview short of low quality renders so It takes a lil
while to fix mistakes

> Would a visual tool that created 2D splines for use in lathes, sors,
prisms
> be helpful? I am in the progress of playing around with such a tool,
written
> in VB, but am not sure if there would be much interest besides my own
sense
> of accomplishment.

That'd be awesome. I'm use to dealing with bezier curves in PS. If it could
speed up the process of making them!

> Cheers!
>
> Lieut_Data

Corey


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From: Flaming Monarch
Subject: Re: Not a Rolex [WIP]
Date: 7 Apr 2002 20:20:59
Message: <3CB0E26C.40305@gates.com>
hey you know that picture where there are time peices all over the place 
draped over the tables and chares and stuff
what was it called
but that looks like it could be meshawarped or somehting to give a bendy 
clock draped effect
thats it
thanks for putting up with me


Corey Woodworth wrote:

> I'm trying to make an old pocket watch. I'm not quite sure how I'm going to
> do the hands. I could cheat and use a transparent image map on a disc, but I
> suppose I should do a prism (ugh, I don't like making splines) I'd like to
> make the whole thing look older though. Some corrosion and maybe even broken
> glass. Has anyone done broken glass before? The only way I could see doing
> it is to difference a webish looking shape with the glass. That'd be hard to
> model though.
> 
> Any critiques or ideas for further development are greatly appreciated!
> 
> Corey
> 
> 
>


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From: Corey Woodworth
Subject: Re: Not a Rolex [WIP]
Date: 7 Apr 2002 20:55:48
Message: <3cb0ea94@news.povray.org>
"Flaming Monarch" <fla### [at] gatescom> wrote in message
news:3CB### [at] gatescom...
> hey you know that picture where there are time peices all over the place
> draped over the tables and chares and stuff
> what was it called
> but that looks like it could be meshawarped or somehting to give a bendy
> clock draped effect
> thats it
> thanks for putting up with me

You must mean Salvidor Dali's Persistance of time. It would be cool to do
that with this pic, but first I have to finish the watch :)

Corey


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From: RAY
Subject: Re: Not a Rolex [WIP]
Date: 7 Apr 2002 21:29:27
Message: <3cb0f277@news.povray.org>
"Corey Woodworth" <cdw### [at] mpinetnet> wrote in message
news:3cb0bd95@news.povray.org...
> I'm trying to make an old pocket watch. I'm not quite sure how I'm going
to
> do the hands. I could cheat and use a transparent image map on a disc, but
I
> suppose I should do a prism (ugh, I don't like making splines) I'd like to
> make the whole thing look older though.
>Some corrosion
try differencing out random objects (slow, but effective).
>and maybe even broken
> glass. Has anyone done broken glass before? The only way I could see doing
> it is to difference a webish looking shape with the glass. That'd be hard
to
> model though.
Would this method work? (the glass is an isosurface i.e. 3.5 or port to
MegaPov, the frame is CSG)
It took about 2.5 minutes to render (without optimized max_gradient) using
photons and radiosity.  It's usually under 1 minute.

--
__________________
 RAY


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From: Flaming Monarch
Subject: Re: Not a Rolex [WIP]
Date: 7 Apr 2002 21:59:52
Message: <3CB0F999.1040800@gates.com>
Look Maw' No Hands

Corey Woodworth wrote:

> I'm trying to make an old pocket watch. I'm not quite sure how I'm going to
> do the hands. I could cheat and use a transparent image map on a disc, but I
> suppose I should do a prism (ugh, I don't like making splines) I'd like to
> make the whole thing look older though. Some corrosion and maybe even broken
> glass. Has anyone done broken glass before? The only way I could see doing
> it is to difference a webish looking shape with the glass. That'd be hard to
> model though.
> 
> Any critiques or ideas for further development are greatly appreciated!
> 
> Corey
> 
> 
>


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From: Corey Woodworth
Subject: Re: Not a Rolex [WIP]
Date: 7 Apr 2002 22:16:36
Message: <3cb0fd84@news.povray.org>
> Would this method work? (the glass is an isosurface i.e. 3.5 or port to
> MegaPov, the frame is CSG)
> It took about 2.5 minutes to render (without optimized max_gradient) using
> photons and radiosity.  It's usually under 1 minute.

Thats similar to what I want but I'm having good luck so far with my HF. I
have a lot more control over it than I would with the isosurface (in the
sense that I know my way around photoshop but isosurface math is a bit over
my head :)

I'll post my results soon.

Corey


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