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I'm afraid this doesn't quite work. Don't know why - tried a hundred or two variations
with no sucess.
Mick
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"Mick Hazelgrove" <mic### [at] mhazelgrove fsnetcouk> wrote in message
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> I'm afraid this doesn't quite work. Don't know why - tried a hundred or
two variations with no sucess.
The proportions seem off to me. The woman is too small, the butterflies,
heron and wolf are too large, the trees seem tiny or too far away and the
small group of rocks on the left seem to be rising out of a hole.
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in news:3c791634@news.povray.org Mick Hazelgrove wrote:
> I'm afraid this doesn't quite work.
At first glance I would say you have a scale problem, yet I can't pinpoint
it. The wolf, the waterbird and the moon look to big, the trees and the
lady too small?
Things that could be tried: make the trees bigger and darker, get rid of
the dome structure/building (if that results in a "gap" maybe add a little
(sailing)boat), make the bridge blend in more with the landscape and
exaggurate the size of the butterflies even more (50% bigger?). Maybe a
little bit more overall contrast.
The plants and grass are great, the way the colours mix, it gets a painted
look.
Ingo
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Mick Hazelgrove wrote:
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> I'm afraid this doesn't quite work. Don't know why - tried a hundred or two
variations with no sucess.
>
Where is the problem?
Some parts look very good i think, esp. the rock on the left, how did you
do it?
There is a bit of the scale problem with the heron(?), the wolf and maybe
the butterflies (although those could be very near to the camera).
I also wonder about the lighting, the sun seems to be shining, but the
contrasts are extremely low apart from the bridge. I can hardly see any
shadows.
How are the trees made, it's a bit difficult to see at that distance.
Christoph
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"Bill DeWitt" wrote:
> The proportions seem off to me.
I agree
>The woman is too small, Could be
the butterflies, are very close to the camera and intentionally large
> heron and wolf are too large,
I agree
the trees seem tiny they are correct but I could try them larger
> small group of rocks on the left seem to be rising out of a hole.
Yep they are!
Mick
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"ingo" wrote in message:
> At first glance I would say you have a scale problem, yet I can't pinpoint
> it. The wolf, the waterbird and the moon look to big, the trees and the
> lady too small?
Agreed
> Things that could be tried: make the trees bigger and darker, get rid of
> the dome structure/building (if that results in a "gap" maybe add a little
> (sailing)boat), make the bridge blend in more with the landscape and
> exaggurate the size of the butterflies even more (50% bigger?). Maybe a
> little bit more overall contrast.
I'll try it. though I've tried it before!
> The plants and grass are great, the way the colours mix, it gets a painted
> look.
thanks
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"Christoph Hormann"wrote:
> Some parts look very good i think, esp. the rock on the left, how did you
> do it?
Thanks, it was made in amorphium. It's about the only thing I can get it to do!
> There is a bit of the scale problem with the heron(?), the wolf and maybe
> the butterflies (although those could be very near to the camera).
I agree
> I also wonder about the lighting, the sun seems to be shining, but the
> contrasts are extremely low apart from the bridge. I can hardly see any
> shadows.
I think there may be a problem with how others see the image in comparison to how I
see the colour - I have yet to properly
calibrate my monitor and get the gamma right.
I think that's due to the grass hiding the shadows
> How are the trees made, it's a bit difficult to see at that distance.
They are meshes and triangles. Made in X-Frog. Everything else apart from the Poser
figures waas modelled in Rhino.
Mick
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Mick Hazelgrove wrote:
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> I think there may be a problem with how others see the image in comparison to how I
see the colour - I have yet to properly
> calibrate my monitor and get the gamma right.
>
> I think that's due to the grass hiding the shadows
I don't think it has much to do with the gamma, brightness seems correct.
The grass being without shadows might explain a lot. Usually grass is
much darker at the lower parts where less light reaches. Without shadows
you won't get this effect.
> > How are the trees made, it's a bit difficult to see at that distance.
>
> They are meshes and triangles. Made in X-Frog. Everything else apart from the Poser
figures waas modelled in Rhino.
>
The terrain too?
I wonder how detailed the trees are, i'm still searching for an efficient
method to generate coniferous trees.
Christoph
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"Christoph Hormann" wrote:
> I don't think it has much to do with the gamma, brightness seems correct.
> The grass being without shadows might explain a lot. Usually grass is
> much darker at the lower parts where less light reaches. Without shadows
> you won't get this effect.
Hmmm
> The terrain too?
No that's a mixture og HF and Isosurfaces
> I wonder how detailed the trees are, i'm still searching for an efficient
> method to generate coniferous trees.
Very good until you get very close. X-Frog though is as good as it gets and can
produce very good trees close up.
Mick
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Bill DeWitt wrote:
> The proportions seem off to me. The woman is too small, the
> butterflies, heron and wolf are too large, the trees seem
> tiny or too far away and the small group of rocks on the left
> seem to be rising out of a hole.
I dunno, I think the misproportioning is intentional...I rather
like this image. Seems needs a little something to make it more
pre-raphaelite-esque.
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