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From: JRG
Subject: bananas (really_a_WIP)
Date: 27 Oct 2001 19:21:40
Message: <3bdb4184@news.povray.org>
OK, the model is awful, but it's just temporary. This scene has nothing to
do with the final scene (if there'll be any...). I just wanted to play with
a banana material (made in a hurry). As you can see it suffers the same
problem seen in Gilles' posts about subsurface scattering, i.e. dark spots
being projected through the fruit.
BTW I found the result interesting, so I've decided to post it anyway.

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Jonathan.


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From: Trevor Quayle
Subject: Re: bananas (really_a_WIP)
Date: 27 Oct 2001 20:36:50
Message: <3bdb5322@news.povray.org>
Hmmm, very nice yet something nags at me which I can't quie pick out.
Perhaps the banana shapes are a bit off, maybe should be a bit sharper at
the the corners (as bananas aren't really cylindrical) and the bottom one
feels a bit too pointy at the end.  The texture is very good but maybe the
spots a bit too small and seem to smear towards the left.  Add some grout as
well, the tiles seem to be floating.
Sorry if I seem a bit too critical on what is an excellent image so far.

-tgq

"JRG" <jrg### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
news:3bdb4184@news.povray.org...
> OK, the model is awful, but it's just temporary. This scene has nothing to
> do with the final scene (if there'll be any...). I just wanted to play
with
> a banana material (made in a hurry). As you can see it suffers the same
> problem seen in Gilles' posts about subsurface scattering, i.e. dark spots
> being projected through the fruit.
> BTW I found the result interesting, so I've decided to post it anyway.
>
> --
> Jonathan.
>
>
>
>


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From: Tony[B]
Subject: Re: bananas (really_a_WIP)
Date: 27 Oct 2001 23:45:17
Message: <3bdb7f4d@news.povray.org>
Remember that the texture of the banana in real life is not continuous. The
meat of the fruit has totally different properties from the surface. At the
very least, you can't use the same density for the while volume and expect
it to look right. Capito?


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From: Jan Walzer
Subject: Re: bananas (really_a_WIP)
Date: 28 Oct 2001 03:03:06
Message: <3bdbbbba$1@news.povray.org>
Hmmm ... I think the texture would fit to potatoes, if you would decrease the
saturation a bit ...

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From: JRG
Subject: Re: bananas (really_a_WIP)
Date: 28 Oct 2001 03:57:26
Message: <3bdbc876@news.povray.org>
"Trevor Quayle" <Tin### [at] hotmailcom> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:3bdb5322@news.povray.org...
> Hmmm, very nice yet something nags at me which I can't quie pick out.
> Perhaps the banana shapes are a bit off, maybe should be a bit sharper at
> the the corners (as bananas aren't really cylindrical) and the bottom one
> feels a bit too pointy at the end.

As I said the model is temporary. It's my first try with Amapi, but I think
I'll stick with Hamapatch because Amapi is really buggy and makes me quickly
get angry...

>The texture is very good but maybe the
> spots a bit too small and seem to smear towards the left.  Add some grout
as
> well, the tiles seem to be floating.
> Sorry if I seem a bit too critical on what is an excellent image so far.

Well, I used a real model as reference.... until I ate it and had no more
models :-P
That smearing is due to the scattering medium in the bananas.

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From: JRG
Subject: Re: bananas (really_a_WIP)
Date: 28 Oct 2001 04:08:59
Message: <3bdbcb2b@news.povray.org>
"Tony[B]" <ben### [at] catholicorg> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:3bdb7f4d@news.povray.org...
> Remember that the texture of the banana in real life is not continuous.
The
> meat of the fruit has totally different properties from the surface. At
the
> very least, you can't use the same density for the while volume and expect
> it to look right. Capito?

Ok, next time I will try to add some thickness to the skin, or perhaps to
model an opened fruit... but I don't know if the model is worth it... maybe
I can go for a still life.

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From: JRG
Subject: Re: bananas (really_a_WIP)
Date: 28 Oct 2001 04:11:12
Message: <3bdbcbb0$1@news.povray.org>
"Jan Walzer" <jan### [at] lzernet> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:3bdbbbba$1@news.povray.org...
> Hmmm ... I think the texture would fit to potatoes, if you would decrease
the
> saturation a bit ...
>
> --
> Jan Walzer <jan### [at] lzernet>

Hmmm, it seems like I had a quite old (but good, I can assure you) banana at
home...

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Jonathan.


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: bananas (really_a_WIP)
Date: 28 Oct 2001 04:20:11
Message: <3BDBCDCB.2BC3C45B@gmx.de>
JRG wrote:
> 
> OK, the model is awful, but it's just temporary. This scene has nothing to
> do with the final scene (if there'll be any...). I just wanted to play with
> a banana material (made in a hurry). As you can see it suffers the same
> problem seen in Gilles' posts about subsurface scattering, i.e. dark spots
> being projected through the fruit.
> BTW I found the result interesting, so I've decided to post it anyway.
> 

Looks good, the dark spots of the bananas should IMO be a bit darker.  It
must have been quite slow with area_light, radiosity, reflection and
media...

Christoph

-- 
Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde>
IsoWood include, radiosity tutorial, TransSkin and other 
things on: http://www.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~chris/


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From: JRG
Subject: Re: bananas (really_a_WIP)
Date: 28 Oct 2001 04:32:23
Message: <3bdbd0a7$1@news.povray.org>
"Christoph Hormann" <chr### [at] gmxde> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:3BDBCDCB.2BC3C45B@gmx.de...
> Looks good, the dark spots of the bananas should IMO be a bit darker.  It
> must have been quite slow with area_light, radiosity, reflection and
> media...
You forgot to mention isosurfaces ;-)

Hmm, let me see...
3 h 35 m 45 s with these not-so-high radiosity settings (it was rendered in
background since my sister had to use the computer):

radiosity {
        pretrace_start 1
        pretrace_end 1
        count 300
        recursion_limit 1
        error_bound 0.1
        gray_threshold 0.0
        normal on
        media on
        }


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: bananas (really_a_WIP)
Date: 28 Oct 2001 05:07:41
Message: <3BDBD8E9.38350C6@gmx.de>
JRG wrote:
> 
> You forgot to mention isosurfaces ;-)

Bah! Those don't count... ;-)

> 
> Hmm, let me see...
> 3 h 35 m 45 s with these not-so-high radiosity settings (it was rendered in
> background since my sister had to use the computer):
> 

That seems really fast (or in other words: that looks really good for such
a fast render).

Christoph

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IsoWood include, radiosity tutorial, TransSkin and other 
things on: http://www.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~chris/


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