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From: Ryan Mooney
Subject: Slooooow Glsaasss =]
Date: 20 Feb 2002 23:12:48
Message: <3C7473BA.E7C78B93@earthlink.net>
My first try at a glass pict... Wow i thought media was slow... Three+
hours with area lights, and anti assailing... The focal blur would have
taken days... =]

I had a real nice glass made out of iso but it was ridiculously slow
with high quality settings... the basic shape without aa took about a
1/2 hour... =[ I relay liked the iso glass bertter it was much more real
and seemed to present better perspective... now that i have an iBook i
want the 1ghz dual g4 tower...

who said " My new computer rocks, it's got the clocks, but it was
already obsolete before i got it out the box"


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From: Hugo
Subject: Re: Slooooow Glsaasss =]
Date: 21 Feb 2002 07:37:18
Message: <3c74e9fe@news.povray.org>
> who said " My new computer rocks, it's got the clocks, but it was
> already obsolete before i got it out the box"

This will be a problem in many years to come. Computers gets faster, but
programs gets more advanced and the result is still endlessly slow
rendering! Sometimes the result isn't even looking better.

Your non-iso glass looks quite good. Perhaps too thick but maybe it's just
me, who haven't seen this kind of glass before. I like the liquid and the
stick... I never tried something like this myself, but I can imagine it's
tricky.

> The focal blur would have taken days... =]

I don't know really.. I think focal blur aren't slower than good quality
AA.. But in this case, I doubt it'll bring you a better image.. What about
photons instead?  :o)

Regards,
Hugo


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From: Zero
Subject: Re: Slooooow Glsaasss =]
Date: 21 Feb 2002 09:00:32
Message: <3c74fd80@news.povray.org>
"Hugo" <hua### [at] post3teledk> schreef in bericht
news:3c74e9fe@news.povray.org...
>
> I don't know really.. I think focal blur aren't slower than good quality
> AA.. But in this case, I doubt it'll bring you a better image.. What about
> photons instead?  :o)

Oh yes, photons would be great.  Got a few days to spare?  ;-)


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From: Ryan Mooney
Subject: Re: Slooooow Glsaasss =]
Date: 21 Feb 2002 09:37:01
Message: <3C75060D.B2293B30@earthlink.net>
>>photons instead?  :o)

that's the next step... along with trying to make ice cubes... anyone got any
bright ideas foe ice cubes... i forgot to ask in the original post... =]

btw the stick is soposed to be a straw, i'll work on that, but its mainly to
show off the refraction of the glass and liquid... =]

Hugo wrote:

> > who said " My new computer rocks, it's got the clocks, but it was
> > already obsolete before i got it out the box"
>
> This will be a problem in many years to come. Computers gets faster, but
> programs gets more advanced and the result is still endlessly slow
> rendering! Sometimes the result isn't even looking better.
>
> Your non-iso glass looks quite good. Perhaps too thick but maybe it's just
> me, who haven't seen this kind of glass before. I like the liquid and the
> stick... I never tried something like this myself, but I can imagine it's
> tricky.
>
> > The focal blur would have taken days... =]
>
> I don't know really.. I think focal blur aren't slower than good quality
> AA.. But in this case, I doubt it'll bring you a better image.. What about
> photons instead?  :o)
>
> Regards,
> Hugo


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From: Ryan Mooney
Subject: Re: Slooooow Glsaasss =]
Date: 21 Feb 2002 09:39:31
Message: <3C7506A3.E3AD6E0A@earthlink.net>
that's what i thought... i remember trying photons a long time ago on my
sloooooooow 80mhz computer and gave up at the 1st, oh i don't know 30 min for a
basic glass sphere without one pixel of rendering... =[

Zero wrote:

> "Hugo" <hua### [at] post3teledk> schreef in bericht
> news:3c74e9fe@news.povray.org...
> >
> > I don't know really.. I think focal blur aren't slower than good quality
> > AA.. But in this case, I doubt it'll bring you a better image.. What about
> > photons instead?  :o)
>
> Oh yes, photons would be great.  Got a few days to spare?  ;-)


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From: Shay
Subject: Re: Slooooow Glsaasss =]
Date: 21 Feb 2002 09:57:58
Message: <3c750af6$1@news.povray.org>
The glass looks very thick like that blue glass you can buy in Mexico. I
think the glass still needs a little work. I like the liquid material,
however. It looks very "commercial art."

 -Shay

Ryan Mooney <rdm### [at] earthlinknet> wrote in message
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From: Ryan Mooney
Subject: Re: Slooooow Glsaasss =]
Date: 21 Feb 2002 11:45:23
Message: <3C752423.5F322DA8@earthlink.net>
thanks... i do need to change the phong and specular highlights on the glass it
looks plastic like and not shiny glass like... i noticed this pots posting...
=]

Shay wrote:

> The glass looks very thick like that blue glass you can buy in Mexico. I
> think the glass still needs a little work. I like the liquid material,
> however. It looks very "commercial art."
>
>  -Shay
>
> Ryan Mooney <rdm### [at] earthlinknet> wrote in message
> news:3C7473BA.E7C78B93@earthlink.net...
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From: Lutz-Peter Hooge
Subject: Re: Slooooow Glsaasss =]
Date: 21 Feb 2002 20:37:39
Message: <MPG.16dfbf60af7afc409896df@news.povray.org>
In article <3C7473BA.E7C78B93@earthlink.net>, rdm### [at] earthlinknet says...

> I had a real nice glass made out of iso but it was ridiculously slow
> with high quality settings... the basic shape without aa took about a
> 1/2 hour... =[ 

What shape are you using now? Lathe?

If it is a cubic lathe you may get a faster rendering using my
Lathe2Patch macro (it make a lathe, but out of bicubic patches wich are a 
bit faster to render)

see http://www.hoogi.de/lutz-peter/render/jlathe/jlathe_eng.html

Lutz-Peter


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From: Ryan Mooney
Subject: Re: Slooooow Glsaasss =]
Date: 22 Feb 2002 14:33:18
Message: <3C769CFF.EBE2CE9D@earthlink.net>
It is the all versatile, wonderful, stupendous.... Blob.... My favorite
shape out of all the features except media runs a close tie... =]

Lutz-Peter Hooge wrote:

> In article <3C7473BA.E7C78B93@earthlink.net>, rdm### [at] earthlinknet says...
>
> > I had a real nice glass made out of iso but it was ridiculously slow
> > with high quality settings... the basic shape without aa took about a
> > 1/2 hour... =[
>
> What shape are you using now? Lathe?
>
> If it is a cubic lathe you may get a faster rendering using my
> Lathe2Patch macro (it make a lathe, but out of bicubic patches wich are a
> bit faster to render)
>
> see http://www.hoogi.de/lutz-peter/render/jlathe/jlathe_eng.html
>
> Lutz-Peter


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From: Lutz-Peter Hooge
Subject: Re: Slooooow Glsaasss =]
Date: 22 Feb 2002 14:54:46
Message: <MPG.16e0c08a8560db2c9896e0@news.povray.org>
In article <3C769CFF.EBE2CE9D@earthlink.net>, rdm### [at] earthlinknet says...

> It is the all versatile, wonderful, stupendous.... Blob.... My favorite
> shape out of all the features except media runs a close tie... =]

How did you make the glass with a blob?
Negative blob-components?
I alway got artefacts with that apporach (probably a precision problem) 
unless I used thick (IMO too thick) walls for the glass.

Lutz-Peter


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