This is what I've brewed up ocer the weekend.

Some major changes:
The "real" ocean and clouds are now made with planes,
instead of spheres. This gives better results for the
distant clouds. Also, the real clouds are placed in a
seperate lightgroup, so no shadow rays should be
passed from them on the scene (I hope this improves
tracing time a little).
The table was adjusted with more tiles, the image
on the wall replaced with a different one I've made
some time ago using only POV. This was done to get
rid of any non-POV-Elements in scene, excluding the
image-maps.

Added the flowers, the notebook and a pencil. The text on
the notebook was taken from my "Loveletters" image,
an image I made with "Worlds within Worlds" and RL
in mind (RL is the reason I didn't want to submit it, as well
as slightly off-topic).

Yes, the clouds (real and mini) are missing, otherwise you'd be
looking at the final version, and that one takes way longer...

Well, hope you like it. I'll sort the files now and add enough
comments for others to get the idea of what I've done.

Thanks for any comments (even suggestions are still welcome,
though they probably won't make it into the IRTC-Entry).

PS: I didn't add a shoreline to the "real" ocean, since I
don't have much experience on that, and didn't want to mess
the image up.

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Attachments:
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Preview of image 'wip.jpg'

After I've just spotted that bicubic-patches aren't
bugged in the new beta-release (just some
comma-problem to be removed in beta 12),
I'll probably change the flowers to a
more "funky" version, but I'm not really sure
yet.

They would look like seen in the image below.

Ah, well.

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Preview of image 'test.jpg'

I've tested the "funky"-flower. It does a bad job in
combination with the poor lighting it would be
placed in, so I'm going for the stylistic version
as seen in the original image.

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I like very much your recursive concept, it is very original.

I think that maybe the flowers are too hidden, in a very obscure place. But
I don't know if placing them nearer the lamp would ruin the composition...

Fernando.

"Tim Nikias" <tim### [at] gmxde> wrote in message
news:3C6696FD.9141D8A5@gmx.de...
> This is what I've brewed up ocer the weekend.
>
> Some major changes:
> The "real" ocean and clouds are now made with planes,
> instead of spheres. This gives better results for the
> distant clouds. Also, the real clouds are placed in a
> seperate lightgroup, so no shadow rays should be
> passed from them on the scene (I hope this improves
> tracing time a little).
> The table was adjusted with more tiles, the image
> on the wall replaced with a different one I've made
> some time ago using only POV. This was done to get
> rid of any non-POV-Elements in scene, excluding the
> image-maps.
>
> Added the flowers, the notebook and a pencil. The text on
> the notebook was taken from my "Loveletters" image,
> an image I made with "Worlds within Worlds" and RL
> in mind (RL is the reason I didn't want to submit it, as well
> as slightly off-topic).
>
> Yes, the clouds (real and mini) are missing, otherwise you'd be
> looking at the final version, and that one takes way longer...
>
> Well, hope you like it. I'll sort the files now and add enough
> comments for others to get the idea of what I've done.
>
> Thanks for any comments (even suggestions are still welcome,
> though they probably won't make it into the IRTC-Entry).
>
> PS: I didn't add a shoreline to the "real" ocean, since I
> don't have much experience on that, and didn't want to mess
> the image up.
>
> --
> Tim Nikias
> Homepage: http://www.digitaltwilight.de/no_lights/index.html
>
>


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> I like very much your recursive concept, it is very original.
>

Thanky you!

>
> I think that maybe the flowers are too hidden, in a very obscure place. But
> I don't know if placing them nearer the lamp would ruin the composition...
>

Then the main "weight" of the image would be in the middle of the image,
and the left side would seem very empty. And thinking about "How would
I do it in RL?", positioning such fragile flowers behind such a "fierce"
light wouldn't be that good idea. Not mentioning that if I'd sit in front
of the desk, I wouldn't see them.

So you were right, it would ruin the composition. Still, thanks for commenting!

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On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 16:51:25 +0100, Tim Nikias <tim### [at] gmxde> wrote:

>PS: I didn't add a shoreline to the "real" ocean, since I
>don't have much experience on that, and didn't want to mess
>the image up.

How about the little island thingey in the worldbowl, under the lamp?  you
may want to make that one visible at the horizon below the moon as well, so
it is easier to make the connection that the 'real world' and the worldbowl
are the same.
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>
> How about the little island thingey in the worldbowl, under the lamp?  you
> may want to make that one visible at the horizon below the moon as well, so
> it is easier to make the connection that the 'real world' and the worldbowl
> are the same.

Actually, those two worlds aren't meant to be the same. Its more of a
recursive approach to worlds. Other elements in the image show other
aspects of the topic, like the flowers: "Flowers say more than thousand words."

The letter written is actually a loveletter, and we all know that love is
a world of its own (at least to those happy and lucky enough to experience
it - well, those not experiencing it know it as well, I guess).


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Water in bowl still looks a little plastic, but otherwise perfect.

 -Shay

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I'll see what I can do...


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