My entry in the previous irtc round was something of a rush job, done 
over about 4 days while on vacation at the end of December.  I think the 
  work may have more potential than what was complete at the time of the 
deadline.  So I have decided to try and complete to a second state.  I 
have made some changes based on comments received in the contest in dome 
cases, and included elements that render times prevented during the 
entry period.  All suggestions on how to make this a better picture are 
welcome.
-Jim

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Hi Jim,

Textures look great 'except' that the orange peel looks brown on my monitor,
and the orange segments are perhaps a little 'too' orange.

All the best,

Andy Cocker

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"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
news:3C5### [at] aolcom...
> My entry in the previous irtc round was something of a rush job, done
> over about 4 days while on vacation at the end of December.  I think the
>   work may have more potential than what was complete at the time of the
> deadline.  So I have decided to try and complete to a second state.  I
> have made some changes based on comments received in the contest in dome
> cases, and included elements that render times prevented during the
> entry period.  All suggestions on how to make this a better picture are
> welcome.
> -Jim
>

Make the textures in the oranges semi transparent and fill with scattering
media. problem is, it will take a lot longer to render...

--
#local X=20*<-2,2,5>;sphere_sweep{catmull_rom_spline 6<-8,-8>1<-8,-8>1<-8,8>1<
8,-8>1<8,8>1<8,8>1translate 20*z pigment{gradient z scale 3color_map{[0rgb<0,9
,18>][1rgb 0]}}}#local K=2*z*X-X;#local R=seed(clock);blob{#while(K.x>X.x)
#local N=X+<rand(R)rand(R)1>/3;#local X=(vlength(N-K)<vlength(X-K)?N:2*X-N);
sphere{X,1,1rotate z*90}sphere{X,1,1}#end pigment{rgbt 1}interior{media{//Nekar
emission<2,4,5>*5}}hollow scale.05}//   http://nekar_xenos.tripod.com/metanoia/




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"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
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Very nice - the teapot has some highlights, should the cups have the same since
they look like the same material?

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Jim:

  As valencian, I can't resist to comment on the oranges: although there 
are orange varieties with such dark-redish color, they are not really 
common. Most people would see them more convincing with a more orange color 
(but for me they are clearly what we call here "blood" oranges, "taronxa de 
sanc" in valencian).

  Anyhow, I've read the technique you used for the oranges, and it is very 
good and brilliant, indeed. The skin grain is very good, but perhpas the 
big deformations are too pronounced: oranges are not spherical, but they 
tend to be more spherical.


-- 
Jaime Vives Piqueres

La Persistencia de la Ignorancia
http://www.ignorancia.org

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I agree with the other comments about the color of the oranges and the
orange flesh being somewhat off.

I also feel the "opened" orange is a bit too cleanly opened and the contents
(I assuming the flesh is from the opened orange) would not have fit through
the opening made in that orange.  In fact I have never seen the contents of
an orange come cleanly out of the interior of the skin since they are so
well attached.

The glass container in the background might benefit through the use of
photons.

Despite my comments I think the image is great!  It really looks "real" and
solid.


"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
news:3C5### [at] aolcom...
> My entry in the previous irtc round was something of a rush job, done
> over about 4 days while on vacation at the end of December.  I think the
>   work may have more potential than what was complete at the time of the
> deadline.  So I have decided to try and complete to a second state.  I
> have made some changes based on comments received in the contest in dome
> cases, and included elements that render times prevented during the
> entry period.  All suggestions on how to make this a better picture are
> welcome.
> -Jim
>


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Jim Charter <jrc### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
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Very impressive. I have seen tangerines that would pop out of the skin like
that. I will have to go back and find your IRTC entry to learn how you
created the oranges.

 -Shay

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Nekar Xenos wrote:

> Make the textures in the oranges semi transparent and fill with scattering
> media. problem is, it will take a lot longer to render...

Good idea, especially since traditional still life with sliced open lemons or the
like often seem to emphasize the transparency.  The texture had a slight
transparency as it stands now, .15 I think.  But it would be interesting to use
more and with scattering media.  Without a deadline looming, render times are no
obstacle.

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Sharp observation Tom.  I don't really know the answer, the identical texture
including finish is applied to each

Tom Melly wrote:

> "Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
> news:3C5### [at] aolcom...
>
> Very nice - the teapot has some highlights, should the cups have the same since
> they look like the same material?

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Patrick Dugan wrote:

> I also feel the "opened" orange is a bit too cleanly opened and the contents
> (I assuming the flesh is from the opened orange) would not have fit through
> the opening made in that orange.  In fact I have never seen the contents of
> an orange come cleanly out of the interior of the skin since they are so
> well attached.

Yes the peels do need more work.  Probably there sould be thre pieces and the
edges much more ragged.  I just can't think how to do it at the moment.  Right
now. one piece is an intersection with some blobs, the other a difference with
the same set of blobs. Maybe I can get more blobs with a greater range of scale
involved.

>
>
> The glass container in the background might benefit through the use of
> photons.

Never even thought if that one!  Have never used photons.  Mmm scary.  Will look
into it.

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