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From: John VanSickle
Subject: For those who oppose the death penalty
Date: 17 Jan 2002 11:52:50
Message: <3C470258.4062E692@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: For those who oppose the death penalty
Date: 17 Jan 2002 12:00:43
Message: <7l0e4uc6cjsnmou217qav3mohnot3lmsu5@4ax.com>
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 17:56:56 +0100, John VanSickle <evi### [at] hotmailcom>
wrote:

Sorry, question has nothing to image but I have to ask:
Logo has JRV for me but I read JVS from your initials. So what is R ?

ABX


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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: For those who oppose the death penalty
Date: 17 Jan 2002 12:12:52
Message: <3c470614$1@news.povray.org>
"John VanSickle" <evi### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
news:3C470258.4062E692@hotmail.com...
> --
> ICQ: 46085459

As you may or may not know, there is considerable concern in the UK (can't speak
for elsewhere) about the treatment of the prisoners in Cuba - glad to see that
such concerns are without foundation ;)


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From:
Subject: Re: For those who oppose the death penalty
Date: 17 Jan 2002 14:18:55
Message: <3c47239f@news.povray.org>
*lol*


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From: Tony[B]
Subject: Re: For those who oppose the death penalty
Date: 17 Jan 2002 15:13:39
Message: <3c473073@news.povray.org>
<clap-clap-clap> Very funny, Mr. VanSickle! Thanks! :) I say we shave his
beard off too.


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From: JRG
Subject: Re: For those who oppose the death penalty
Date: 17 Jan 2002 15:58:44
Message: <3c473b04@news.povray.org>
So, am I the only one who finds this kind of things tasteless?

--
#local j=text{ttf"arial""JRG".2,0}#local J=0;#while(J<10)#local R=0;#while
(R<2)#local G=0;#while(G<1)#if(inside(j<R,G.1>))object{j scale.025translate
<R-1G-J/20J/-40+2>pigment{rgb<9J>}}#debug"O"#else#debug" "#end#local G=G+
.025;#end#local R=R+.05;#debug"\n"#end#local J=J+1;#end// JRG

Home: http://digilander.iol.it/jrgpov  //New: Kitchen scene WIP


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From: user
Subject: Re: For those who oppose the death penalty
Date: 17 Jan 2002 16:09:43
Message: <3C473D5A.9080107@domain.invalid>
Nice image, pretty good idea, nice clean image.

I'm sure the prisoners are being treat much better than they deserve and 
much better than they treated the CIA agent that they tortured and killed.



Tom Melly wrote:

> "John VanSickle" <evi### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
> news:3C470258.4062E692@hotmail.com...
> 
>>--
>>ICQ: 46085459
>>
> 
> As you may or may not know, there is considerable concern in the UK (can't speak
> for elsewhere) about the treatment of the prisoners in Cuba - glad to see that
> such concerns are without foundation ;)
> 
> 
>


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From: Marc-Hendrik Bremer
Subject: Re: For those who oppose the death penalty
Date: 17 Jan 2002 16:34:40
Message: <3c474370@news.povray.org>
JRG schrieb in Nachricht <3c473b04@news.povray.org>...
>So, am I the only one who finds this kind of things tasteless?
>


No.

Marc-Hendrik


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From: Mathieu
Subject: Re: For those who oppose the death penalty
Date: 17 Jan 2002 16:42:28
Message: <3c474544$1@news.povray.org>
No

Mathieu


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From: Greg M  Johnson
Subject: A joke for John
Date: 17 Jan 2002 16:55:59
Message: <3c47486f$1@news.povray.org>
The sad fact is that folks of John's mindset run prisons around the world:

From an Amnesty report on Turkey:

>>In 1999, Amnesty International received a number of reports of
unacknowledged detention and torture of Kurdish villagers. For example,
between 8 and 12 June some 50 people from Tilkiler and four other villages

were taken into detention at the Pazarc_k Gendarmerie Command and reportedly
severely beaten and otherwise tortured. Methods of torture included being
forced to eat human excrement, being suspended by their arms which were tied
behind their backs, being truncheoned and being sprayed with pressurized
water. One of the detainees disclosed to his lawyer that: ''They did not
take us to toilets, so that we had to excrete where we were hung. We were
covered with excrement as we could not clean ourselves while we were hung.
Later, they put excrement on the truncheon, and inserted the truncheon into
my mouth. They inserted the truncheon into my anus [...] throughout the
eight days they forced me to sit naked on the concrete floor, and without
allowing me to lie down''.
<<

From an Amnesty report on China:
>>. He was detained again, denied food, hung upside down, whipped and beaten
with wooden clubs and burned with cigarette butts. He reportedly became
doubly incontinent, his body covered in excrement. The officials reportedly
then branded his lower body with soldering irons, tied wire around his
genitals and ripped off his penis. Zhou died on 15 May 1998. <<



Those who follow Jesus, OTOH, are reminded in Hebrews:

"Remember those in prison as if you were their fellow prisoners, and those
who are mistreated as if you yourselves were suffering."


Those who are able to remember mistreatment as if they themselves were
mistreated can turn to:

http://www.vom.com.au/aboutus/pages/purposes.html
http://amnesty.org


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