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From: Chris Huff
Subject: Re: Fibonacci Mosaics (151KB & 145KB) - crackle.jpg (1/1)
Date: 7 Sep 2000 20:37:34
Message: <chrishuff-038DA3.19391607092000@news.povray.org>
In article <39B82B9C.36DAF298@online.no>, Tor Olav Kristensen 
<tto### [at] onlineno> wrote:

> This sounds interesting.
> Can you please try to explain more about what
> you have in mind ?
> (I don't understand what you mean by "cell" and
> I don't know any crackle patterns yet.)

I have attached an image of a sphere with a crackle pigment. As you see, 
it has separate "cells". In the official version and MegaPOV, these are 
located randomly, I was wondering if it would be possible to specify 
their locations and strengths manually, maybe as an extension to the 
blob pattern.


> Are you thinking of a Fibonacci pattern in 3
> dimensions ?

No, though it could be used to do that if you wanted(and if you figure 
out what a 3D Fibonacci pattern is).

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From: Tor Olav Kristensen
Subject: Re: Fibonacci Mosaics (151KB & 145KB)
Date: 7 Sep 2000 20:40:53
Message: <39B8344B.27A063A3@online.no>
Ben Paschke wrote:

> no no no!
>
> Isn't it Frank Frazetta?
>
> "Greg M. Johnson" wrote:
>
> > Saddam Hussein, right?

It's from the lower left image on this page:
http://www.wadhome.org/frazetta/overview0002.html

I don't know how Frank Frazetta look(ed ?), but
if it is showing him, then it must be a self-portrait.

Does anyone know more about this ?


Tor Olav
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From: Tor Olav Kristensen
Subject: Re: Fibonacci Mosaics (151KB & 145KB) - crackle.jpg (1/1)
Date: 7 Sep 2000 20:46:35
Message: <39B835A1.EEB8B211@online.no>
Chris Huff wrote:

> ...
> I have attached an image of a sphere with a crackle pigment. As you see,
> it has separate "cells". In the official version and MegaPOV, these are
> located randomly, I was wondering if it would be possible to specify
> their locations and strengths manually, maybe as an extension to the
> blob pattern.

Now I see. Thank you for explaining.


> > Are you thinking of a Fibonacci pattern in 3
> > dimensions ?
>
> No, though it could be used to do that if you wanted(and if you figure
> out what a 3D Fibonacci pattern is).

I'll have to brood on this for a while.


Tor Olav
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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: Fibonacci Mosaics (151KB & 145KB)
Date: 7 Sep 2000 23:17:33
Message: <39B85920.5A9170BA@faricy.net>
Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:

> It's also interesting to see how well the curves
> in the Fibonacci pattern follows the edges of the
> flower's leafs.

Yeah, there's probably 1000 different places you could find the golden
ratio or a Fibannochi number on a single plant...

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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: Fibonacci Mosaics (151KB & 145KB) - crackle.jpg (1/1)
Date: 8 Sep 2000 10:44:35
Message: <slrn8rhvj6.19a.ron.parker@fwi.com>
On Thu, 07 Sep 2000 19:39:16 -0500, Chris Huff wrote:
>I have attached an image of a sphere with a crackle pigment. As you see, 
>it has separate "cells". In the official version and MegaPOV, these are 
>located randomly, I was wondering if it would be possible to specify 
>their locations and strengths manually, maybe as an extension to the 
>blob pattern.

Yes, but you'd need an efficient data structure to find the closest center
to a given sample point quickly.  Fortunately, I've done some work in that 
field (though in 2D) so I have some ideas on how it might be done.

Such a pattern would solve Gilles' lizard-skin problem, too.

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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: Fibonacci Mosaics (151KB & 145KB)
Date: 8 Sep 2000 10:47:40
Message: <slrn8rhvp0.19a.ron.parker@fwi.com>
On Thu, 07 Sep 2000 22:12:32 -0500, David Fontaine wrote:
>Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
>
>> It's also interesting to see how well the curves
>> in the Fibonacci pattern follows the edges of the
>> flower's leafs.
>
>Yeah, there's probably 1000 different places you could find the golden
>ratio or a Fibannochi number on a single plant...

You realize, of course, that there's a relationship between the two.

If F(n) is the n'th Fibonacci number, then 

  lim    F(n)/F(n-1) = phi      
n -> oo 

(where "oo" should be taken as a low-resolution version of the symbol for
infinity.)

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From: Alf Peake
Subject: Re: Fibonacci Mosaics (151KB & 145KB)
Date: 8 Sep 2000 18:30:30
Message: <39b96886@news.povray.org>
Tor Olav Kristensen <tto### [at] onlineno> wrote in message
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>
> Any suggestions for improvements ?
>
You've got to be joking?
:)

Alf


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From: Alf Peake
Subject: Re: Fibonacci Mosaics (151KB & 145KB)
Date: 8 Sep 2000 18:30:55
Message: <39b9689f@news.povray.org>
I think the pattern adds to these images. A regular 50*50 grid might
look good, but these 2 images say "Hey! Look at this!"

Alf


David Fontaine <dav### [at] faricynet> wrote in message
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> These are good! The first is a better subject for the process IMHO,
int the
> second the pattern is very distracting...
>
> --
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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: Fibonacci Mosaics (151KB & 145KB)
Date: 8 Sep 2000 20:39:30
Message: <39B985A9.968B832F@faricy.net>
Ron Parker wrote:

> You realize, of course, that there's a relationship between the two.

Well Duh

> If F(n) is the n'th Fibonacci number, then
>
>   lim    F(n)/F(n-1) = phi
> n -> oo

Well Duh

> (where "oo" should be taken as a low-resolution version of the symbol for
> infinity.)

Well Duh

:-)


teehee

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From: Chris S 
Subject: Re: Fibonacci Mosaics (151KB & 145KB)
Date: 8 Sep 2000 22:17:15
Message: <39b99dab$1@news.povray.org>
Tor Olav Kristensen <tto### [at] onlineno> wrote in message
news:39B8344B.27A063A3@online.no...
> I don't know how Frank Frazetta look(ed ?), but
> if it is showing him, then it must be a self-portrait.
>
> Does anyone know more about this ?

Yeah, if you take a look at the official Frazetta website
http://www.frazettaartgallery.com/ they mention this self-portrait briefly
in his bio.

-Chris-


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