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I agree with you. The idea of selling people's conversations just
seemed a little odd at first.
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Glen Berry wrote:
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> I agree with you. The idea of selling people's conversations just
> seemed a little odd at first.
One benifit of a CD version of the server is that you would not have
to wait for large binary attachments to download over a slow assed
modem connection :)
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Ken Tyler - 1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 21:20:46 -0800, Ken <tyl### [at] pacbell net> wrote:
> I passed on your earlier suggestion to Chris but I see some flaws in it
>already. The biggest problem facing this server right now is available
>space.
I thought you might say that. If there isn't room, then I can live
with losing some of the older posts. In fact, I had already deleted
many of the older posts on my machine anyway. I had the same lack of
space problem myself. I had already moved my favorite attachments to
other directories for safe keeping.
I think that most of us could live with posts that expire after a
year's time. It sure beats typical usenet servers that sometimes
delete posts within the same week. :)
>I have seen a definate difference in the
>quality of images posted here. While there was some good posts
>in the early days of this server the posts in the last year have
>improved consistantly since that time.
I have been thinking the same thing lately. I remember the images
before POV 2.2 came out. Things have come a very long way since then.
As you say, even in just the last year, there has been remarkable
progress in image quality. The two things creating this are the peer
support that you mention and the continuing improvement of POV-Ray
itself.
Even the growth of POV-Ray itself has benefitted from the peer support
here, because many of the custom features have been suggested,
created, shared, and improved on here. Without this news server, the
Super Patch and Mega-POV might not have become what they are today.
I'm not forgetting the Official POV, because some of the features in
the Official POV were once found in custom patches, and no doubt, many
of the features in the current Mega-POV, and other patches, will find
their way into a future Official POV version.
It would be nice to keep this history archived *somewhere*, but I'm
not sure where. Perhaps distributing CD-ROM's with news archives as
someone suggested is a possibility, but even if we don't have an
archive of news, we'll still get along fine.
I know, because as interesting as the past might be, the best of
POV-Ray is yet to come.
later,
Glen Berry
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 21:30:29 -0800, Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
>One benifit of a CD version of the server is that you would not have
>to wait for large binary attachments to download over a slow assed
>modem connection :)
Yes, it would certainly have some benefits.
later,
Glen Berry
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Ken wrote:
>What I think might work is an annual purge of older files. For example
>once per year in the month of November we can announce that on Jan. 1
>all message 1 year or older are about to go away.
How about transferring the purged files to a web archive on one of the free
webspace providers. For example like: http://members.xoom.com/altphotoprc/
Ingo
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ingo wrote:
> How about transferring the purged files to a web archive on one of the free
> webspace providers. For example like: http://members.xoom.com/altphotoprc/
I doubt Chris would ever go for this. Every one of us that use this
news server are protected from spam bots collecting our addresses and
bombarding us with spam. The second you move these articles to a public
web site we all become potential victims. Many of the people here use
non spam protected e-mail addresses because they know they are protected
on this closed news server. It would be a violation of that faith we
have put in Chris's efforts to provide us with a spam free environment
and I don't think he would intentionaly work against himself in that
regard.
Nope. I do not see this as an alternative nor do I think others would
be happy about it.
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Ken Tyler - 1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/
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Ken wrote:
>The second you move these articles to a public
>web site we all become potential victims.
You're right, for a moment I forgot about the dark side.
Ingo
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Pov-Ray : http://members.home.nl/seed7/
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On Sat, 19 Feb 2000 00:55:24 -0500, Glen Berry <7no### [at] ezwvcom>
wrote:
>It would be nice to keep this history archived *somewhere*, but I'm
>not sure where. Perhaps distributing CD-ROM's with news archives as
>someone suggested is a possibility, but even if we don't have an
>archive of news, we'll still get along fine.
I archive them on CD every month. Everyone could do the same at will.
Selling this CDs though would violate the copyrights of maybe a
thousand people, and getting permission to do so would be an
unbearable if not impossible task, what with casual posters, obsolete
e-mails etc.
Peter Popov
pet### [at] usanet
ICQ: 15002700
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I think it's good to have this archive here and accessible to all
people all the time. There have been some really interesting
threads since I've been here (June 1998), and I once d/l'd almost
all of the images, then a HD problem came and I lost everything
but it's all still here if I want it. I havn't got access to
a CD writer, and can't affort one now or in the forseeable future,
and also can't afford to d/l the whole of p.b.i, but I can go and
get the bits that I want or need any time I like because they're
here.
I remember as a new boy, going through this group looking at all
the previous images, it was a great inspiration to me, and probably
still is to other new commers.
Just my 2p worth. Long Live POV and brother Mega.
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Cheers
Steve email mailto:sjl### [at] ndirectcouk
%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/
or http://start.at/zero-pps
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Peter Popov wrote:
> I archive them on CD every month. Everyone could do the same at will.
What about us poor online modem readers?
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