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From: Greg Edwards
Subject: Subsurface scattering with media
Date: 15 Jan 2003 22:11:10
Message: <1gb1qx7ev2f61.1o6hbt06r5ogh.dlg@40tude.net>
Hello, I've been using POV for a few years now although I've never really 
made anything truly spectacular. Anyway, I've been trying to simulate 
subsurface scattering with POV's media. I've found it looks a lot better 
with photon mapping turned off. The first image is a render with ior 1.4 
for the object with no photons. The second has no refraction in the object 
but the results are very similar... I should have more images once my POV 
finishes rendering the title screen for a game I'm making. 0 PPS so far...


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From: Christopher James Huff
Subject: Re: Subsurface scattering with media
Date: 17 Jan 2003 14:40:04
Message: <cjameshuff-CD56B5.14392417012003@netplex.aussie.org>
In article <1gb### [at] 40tudenet>,
 Greg Edwards <edw### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:

> Hello, I've been using POV for a few years now although I've never really 
> made anything truly spectacular. Anyway, I've been trying to simulate 
> subsurface scattering with POV's media. I've found it looks a lot better 
> with photon mapping turned off.

Did you have media photons turned on?

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From: Greg Edwards
Subject: Re: Subsurface scattering with media
Date: 17 Jan 2003 15:13:23
Message: <1qg778hvie6b9.1f5fm3o7pau3t$.dlg@40tude.net>
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:39:24 -0500, Christopher James Huff wrote:

> Did you have media photons turned on?

Nope. Using photons created odd lines in the scene and broke the effect. I 
think that POV's photons just deposit themselves in media but don't 
actually scatter volumetrically.


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From: Greg Edwards
Subject: Re: Subsurface scattering with media
Date: 17 Jan 2003 15:19:28
Message: <hrcf2jrx32we.1tla9c6jdf69u.dlg@40tude.net>
One more thing. I'd give an example but I'm still currently rendering the 
SAME image that I mentioned before. It's been hovering at about 1 PPS at 
1024x768. It should take off once it makes it through the isosurface 
"walls". I'll be sure to post the image whenever it's done! I suppose I 
could have turned down some more quality settings and focal blur but it's 
close enough to done that I shouldn't restart.

Rendering line  232 of  768 [last line 2 PPS]


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From: Christopher James Huff
Subject: Re: Subsurface scattering with media
Date: 17 Jan 2003 16:48:31
Message: <cjameshuff-3403BF.16475217012003@netplex.aussie.org>
In article <1qg778hvie6b9.1f5fm3o7pau3t$.dlg@40tude.net>,
 Greg Edwards <edw### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:

> Nope. Using photons created odd lines in the scene and broke the effect. I 
> think that POV's photons just deposit themselves in media but don't 
> actually scatter volumetrically.

You are right that they don't scatter off the media, only illuminate it. 
But you need media photons enabled to get the media lit up by the 
photons. Otherwise, there is little reason to have them. Your problems 
sound like you didn't have enough photons. It sounds like things are 
slow enough as they are, though.
What is your machine? My experiments on my 350MHz Power Mac were slow, 
but not that slow.

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From: Greg Edwards
Subject: Re: Subsurface scattering with media
Date: 17 Jan 2003 22:09:45
Message: <1y1phdltt8hwg$.15534rh879s8h$.dlg@40tude.net>
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:47:52 -0500, Christopher James Huff wrote:

> In article <1qg778hvie6b9.1f5fm3o7pau3t$.dlg@40tude.net>,
>  Greg Edwards <edw### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> 
>> Nope. Using photons created odd lines in the scene and broke the effect. I 
>> think that POV's photons just deposit themselves in media but don't 
>> actually scatter volumetrically.
> 
> You are right that they don't scatter off the media, only illuminate it. 
> But you need media photons enabled to get the media lit up by the 
> photons. Otherwise, there is little reason to have them. Your problems 
> sound like you didn't have enough photons. It sounds like things are 
> slow enough as they are, though.
> What is your machine? My experiments on my 350MHz Power Mac were slow, 
> but not that slow.

When I did my photons render, it DID get illuminated. I think I must have 
exaggerated when I said "odd lines". The only problem was that the 
subsurface scattering effect became diminished. I just thought it looked 
nicer with photons disabled for this object (and render times were insane 
(sorry, no numbers)). BTW, my system is a P3 866 and 256MB RAM running XP.


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