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From: jr
Subject: Re: No image
Date: 9 Jul 2018 06:05:01
Message: <web.5b433286326cb273635cc5ad0@news.povray.org>
hi,

"Bald Eagle" <cre### [at] netscapenet> wrote:
> So, it was good that I revisited this, as there were some corrections I needed
> to do, and the bozo pattern was pretty bad at showing what I wanted.
> Here's an animation of a rolling sphere - the sphere travels through a long box,
> and the coloration of the intersection of the sphere and box is determined by
> the r, g, and b values calculated from the values of the agate pattern at each
> point and converted to a [correct] HSV spectrum.
> I hope you like it,

oh, very much.  it looks very attractive.  it is an entirely different process
than the one I've in mind, the result however .. very nice.

> and if you provide more of a description of what you're
> envisioning, that would make implementing it much more straightforward.  :)

the planned animation (notes travelling along staves, revealing hidden object as
they move "across") has been somewhat on hold these past few days because I'm
working to get 'df3 tools 0.4.0' ready for release.  priorities :-)

I'm hoping to get back to "playing" before this week is out.

> (this is at 15 frames / sec - I can do it at 5 as well, but this looks much
> smoother)
> Back to work tomorrow   :(   but the heat has broken (for now) and hopefully the
> rest of the week goes smoothly.
> Hope everything is going well for you IRL.

snowed under?!  :-)

anyway, thank you also for the image showing the whole path of the sphere --
useful.


regards, jr.


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From: jr
Subject: Re: No image
Date: 9 Jul 2018 06:10:00
Message: <web.5b4333c6326cb273635cc5ad0@news.povray.org>
hi,

Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> ... an observation.
> Consider a sphere with a media based on a spiral density pattern rolling
> through the box with a horizontal colour gradient. The resultant image
> would be additive or subtractive.

that too sounds v interesting.  I had not thought about patterning functions at
all.  could you post an outline of the objects and the materials, to help me try
this?  thanks.


regards, jr.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: No image
Date: 9 Jul 2018 07:12:45
Message: <5b43432d@news.povray.org>
On 09/07/2018 11:07, jr wrote:
> hi,
> 
> Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>> ... an observation.
>> Consider a sphere with a media based on a spiral density pattern rolling
>> through the box with a horizontal colour gradient. The resultant image
>> would be additive or subtractive.
> 
> that too sounds v interesting.  I had not thought about patterning functions at
> all.  could you post an outline of the objects and the materials, to help me try
> this?  thanks.
> 
> 
> regards, jr.
> 

Just a thought experiment. Like most things the mind's eye is better 
than reality. More thought needed.

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Bald Eagle
Subject: Re: No image
Date: 9 Jul 2018 13:05:00
Message: <web.5b4394bc326cb273c437ac910@news.povray.org>
OK, so as far as I understand what you want to do:

There will be static, stationary visible staves.
There will moving, visible notes.
There will be a stationary invisible object.

The visible notes will change color when they intersect the invisible object.

optional:

Portions of the staves will not be visible when a note overlaps them.


I think I can get that work - I scribbled it out during lunch.  :)


Stephen - yes, the ball does not "roll", it translates, but even if the ball
rolled, it would look the same, since as you say, it's traveling through the
pattern, rather than the pattern being attached to it.

The media method is what jr requested, and Bill P. supplied the prototype scene
code and functions for.

Presumably normal primitives could be used with transmit and filter....


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: No image
Date: 9 Jul 2018 14:11:53
Message: <5b43a569$1@news.povray.org>
On 09/07/2018 18:00, Bald Eagle wrote:
> 
> OK, so as far as I understand what you want to do:
> 
> There will be static, stationary visible staves.
> There will moving, visible notes.
> There will be a stationary invisible object.
> 
> The visible notes will change color when they intersect the invisible object.
> 
> optional:
> 
> Portions of the staves will not be visible when a note overlaps them.
> 
> 
> I think I can get that work - I scribbled it out during lunch.  :)
> 
> 
> Stephen - yes, the ball does not "roll", it translates, but even if the ball
> rolled, it would look the same, since as you say, it's travelling through the
> pattern, rather than the pattern being attached to it.
> 
If you are calling me a pedant. Then I put my hand up with pride. :)


> The media method is what jr requested, and Bill P. supplied the prototype scene
> code and functions for.
> 

Memory is the second thing to go. (Jim Henderson's dad.)

So I have this idea in my head and I can't let it go.

> Presumably normal primitives could be used with transmit and filter....
> 

Too easy. <cough, cough> ;)

I am still mulling my idea over without consciously think of it.
Too hot here and too many shandies.

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Bald Eagle
Subject: Re: No image
Date: 10 Jul 2018 20:55:01
Message: <web.5b45550c326cb273458c7afe0@news.povray.org>
New version with sphere translating across a series of smaller spheres stretched
in the z direction.


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From: Bald Eagle
Subject: Re: No image
Date: 10 Jul 2018 21:00:01
Message: <web.5b45556f326cb273458c7afe0@news.povray.org>
As so:


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: No image
Date: 11 Jul 2018 07:39:23
Message: <5b45ec6b$1@news.povray.org>
On 11/07/2018 01:53, Bald Eagle wrote:
> New version with sphere translating across a series of smaller spheres stretched
> in the z direction.
> 

Nice one. :D

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Bald Eagle
Subject: Re: No image
Date: 14 Jul 2018 09:35:00
Message: <web.5b49fb2d326cb273458c7afe0@news.povray.org>
Off-topic / highly tangentially related.
:)

http://mnhopkins.blogspot.com/2017/12/your-brain-on-music-how-your-favorite.html


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From: jr
Subject: Re: No image
Date: 14 Jul 2018 12:40:00
Message: <web.5b4a26d3326cb2731500b2fd0@news.povray.org>
hi,

"Bald Eagle" <cre### [at] netscapenet> wrote:
> Off-topic / highly tangentially related.
> :)

+1 for the tangents.  :-)

> http://mnhopkins.blogspot.com/2017/12/your-brain-on-music-how-your-favorite.html

"They found that when subjects listened to songs from their preferred musical
genres, they exhibited enhanced levels of brain connectivity."

one could quibble and say that, surely, this is about "activity" rather than
"connectivity", however, reading it did stimulate.  :-)

little progress so far with the 'notes' project, though begins to irritate, so
"something must be done".  ;-)  will post when I have (a little) better than the
jury-rigged present.  still not sure where/whether patterns such as the agate
you showed can be incorporated usefully, another puzzle to solve.


regards, jr.


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