Greetings!

I want to make a neccessary request which affects the POV-Ray-own editor. My 
OS is Windows XP.

I like the idea of the tabs when several files are opened. But it is still 
kind of uncomfortable to close a file (close a tab). Why not each tab is 
equipped with a little Close button, or at least the editor has a Close 
button on the very right side beside the tabs which closes the active tab 
(file). Up to now, I always had to use a right-click and then again to move 
inside its popup menu to click finally on "Close File", or I had to click on 
"File" (insie the regular menu), then to click again on "Close".

I think, the own Close button would make the closing of files much more 
comfortable, the more, as the two other mouse-methods remain and the 
key-combination as well. That Close button would be nice for all those who 
prefer it that way.

Otherwise, everthing else is veeery fine!

Greetings,

Sven

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> I think, the own Close button would make the closing of files much more 
> comfortable

	The WinPOV editor does already have a close button located in the main
toolbar.  However your suggestion has already been considered: it is indeed
nowadays quite common to find a close button at the right-side of the tab bar
(e.g. Web browsers) or even on each tab.  Either way would be nice and useful
(maybe with the possibility to choose among the 3 possible settings).

	Another neat thing could be for each tab to get a small (left) icon
that depicts the scene (for instance by looking for an image file that matches
the scene filename or by making the icon on-the-fly) again similar to the
favicon.ico support in web browsers.

	- NC

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"Sven Littkowski" <sve### [at] jamaica-focuscom> wrote:
> Greetings!

heya!

> But it is still
> kind of uncomfortable to close a file (close a tab).
> I always had to use a right-click and then again to move
> inside its popup menu to click finally on "Close File", or I had to click on
> "File" (insie the regular menu), then to click again on "Close".

or you can just press CTRL+F4. :)

Frankly, i'm a very anti-mouse man.  It's one of the most unproductive tools
there is.  It's only great when you're beginning to learn how to communicate
to computers and just go "clicking" everywhere to see what happens.  It also
used to be a nice tool for graphic designers, but pen and tablets are the
norm these days.

For programming and every text-editing related tasks, mouse and menus suck,
as you stop what you're doing, move your hand away from the editing
keyboard area and waits as the menus "pop down" and show you options.  I
mean, about one week of constantly messing with a GUI program and you're
likely to have already decorated all the options in all menus and knows
exactly where each one is at each menu -- why should you wait for them to
showup?!  You're likely to even have decorated all shortcuts by repetitive
usage and they simply come over as naturally as walking...

Try it.  Try to forget the mouse for a while and just work your way through
the keyboard and keyboard shortcuts for commands or menu options.  Even
when working in Photoshop it saves you a lot of time! :D

BTW, ALT+f, then c does the same as CTRL+F4, however, doing it by keyboard,
though you barely even see the menu popup...

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Hi Nicolas,

thanks for your answer. I fully agree with you in terms of the buttons. The 
tiny image, well, let me say it that way: I would like to agree if I would 
know additional images will not take more than the least possible resources 
from the system (as POV-Ray needs as many as possible).

Basically, I like your two points.

Greetings,

Sven


"Nicolas Calimet" <pov### [at] freefr> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:4459db7e@news.povray.org...
>> I think, the own Close button would make the closing of files much more 
>> comfortable
>
> The WinPOV editor does already have a close button located in the main
> toolbar.  However your suggestion has already been considered: it is 
> indeed
> nowadays quite common to find a close button at the right-side of the tab 
> bar
> (e.g. Web browsers) or even on each tab.  Either way would be nice and 
> useful
> (maybe with the possibility to choose among the 3 possible settings).
>
> Another neat thing could be for each tab to get a small (left) icon
> that depicts the scene (for instance by looking for an image file that 
> matches
> the scene filename or by making the icon on-the-fly) again similar to the
> favicon.ico support in web browsers.
>
> - NC

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Hi Nemesis,

thanks a lot for your answer. Yes, you might be surprised to hear now, that 
I knew the key combination. But my point is, that there are various types of 
users each with his or her own habits of using a computer program.

The point I want to make, is that the editor should just accomodate as many 
types as usage profiles as it makes sense. Yes, I know the key combination. 
But I am one of those freaky but nice guys who prefer easy mouse 
reachability for some cases, despite of using key combinations also for some 
other purposes. In case of the POV-Ray editor, I really miss the certain 
ease if it comes to close a file.

A program is well done, if it supports the majority of usage profiles.

Ah, but don't take me wrong, Nemesis: I appreciate your answer, and it is 
interesting to hear about your opinion. Truly thanks,

Sven




"nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:web.4459e0b3c3915a223976a8750@news.povray.org...
> "Sven Littkowski" <sve### [at] jamaica-focuscom> wrote:
>> Greetings!
>
> heya!
>
>> But it is still
>> kind of uncomfortable to close a file (close a tab).
>> I always had to use a right-click and then again to move
>> inside its popup menu to click finally on "Close File", or I had to click 
>> on
>> "File" (insie the regular menu), then to click again on "Close".
>
> or you can just press CTRL+F4. :)
>
> Frankly, i'm a very anti-mouse man.  It's one of the most unproductive 
> tools
> there is.  It's only great when you're beginning to learn how to 
> communicate
> to computers and just go "clicking" everywhere to see what happens.  It 
> also
> used to be a nice tool for graphic designers, but pen and tablets are the
> norm these days.
>
> For programming and every text-editing related tasks, mouse and menus 
> suck,
> as you stop what you're doing, move your hand away from the editing
> keyboard area and waits as the menus "pop down" and show you options.  I
> mean, about one week of constantly messing with a GUI program and you're
> likely to have already decorated all the options in all menus and knows
> exactly where each one is at each menu -- why should you wait for them to
> showup?!  You're likely to even have decorated all shortcuts by repetitive
> usage and they simply come over as naturally as walking...
>
> Try it.  Try to forget the mouse for a while and just work your way 
> through
> the keyboard and keyboard shortcuts for commands or menu options.  Even
> when working in Photoshop it saves you a lot of time! :D
>
> BTW, ALT+f, then c does the same as CTRL+F4, however, doing it by 
> keyboard,
> though you barely even see the menu popup...
>
>
>

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