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From: ThH
Subject: Re: optics.pov 3.7.0 vs 3.7.1
Date: 28 Feb 2016 07:39:51
Message: <56d2ea97$1@news.povray.org>
Am 28.02.2016 um 12:24 schrieb William F Pokorny:

> I am seeing some shift in optics.pov result 3.7.0 stable to POV-Ray
> 3.7.1-alpha.8499454. I like the new, less intense, result over the old,
> but is this 3.7.0 to 3.7.1 change expected ?
>
> Bill P.

You're right 8)

Just did a 1200x900 render using the versions mentioned above...

Haven't noticed the "new look" while toying hunting for the error.

Expected change... Interesting Question :)


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From: ThH
Subject: Re: optics.pov 3.7.0 vs 3.7.1
Date: 28 Feb 2016 08:13:02
Message: <56d2f25e$1@news.povray.org>
Am 28.02.2016 um 13:40 schrieb ThH:

> Expected change... Interesting Question :)

abyss.pov 3.7.0 vs 3.7.1... Same result: 2 "different" Images.

Expected change ?


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: optics.pov 3.7.0 vs 3.7.1
Date: 28 Feb 2016 09:29:12
Message: <56d30438$1@news.povray.org>
Am 28.02.2016 um 12:24 schrieb William F Pokorny:
> On 02/28/2016 05:04 AM, clipka wrote:
>>
>> You might want to test the newest version though :D
>>
> 
> Cool! You got the bug - thanks.
> 
> I am seeing some shift in optics.pov result 3.7.0 stable to POV-Ray
> 3.7.1-alpha.8499454. I like the new, less intense, result over the old,
> but is this 3.7.0 to 3.7.1 change expected ?

There are various factors that could contribute.

For one thing, the old encoding/decoding scheme for the photon colour
data was flawed, leading to a systematic error in the photon brightness,
which has been fixed in 3.7.1. However, that doesn't seem to fit the
bill, as this error should have manifested as a slight bias towards
black, so that in 3.7.1 we should see an _increase_ rather than a
decrease in brightness.

Another thing is that the error in the photons code I've just fixed has
been around for quite a while, and _did_ already exist in 3.7.0; it just
didn't surface until the change in the encoding/decoding scheme
translated it into artifacts Unix systems. It _may_ be that the old
encoding/decoding scheme did already translate the error into artifacts,
and that they just were a lot less bright.

My current favourite theory, however, is that the change in brightness
is related to a change in the media computation. There, too, a
long-standing flaw led to another systematic error, which has also been
fixed in 3.7.1.

Note that this can explain the differences in abyss.pov, too.


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From: ThH
Subject: Re: optics.pov 3.7.0 vs 3.7.1
Date: 28 Feb 2016 09:42:45
Message: <56d30765@news.povray.org>
Am 28.02.2016 um 15:29 schrieb clipka:

> My current favourite theory, however, is that the change in brightness
> is related to a change in the media computation. There, too, a
> long-standing flaw led to another systematic error, which has also been
> fixed in 3.7.1.

Currently trying some more scenes.

I had the impression the effect might be linked to media.

> Note that this can explain the differences in abyss.pov, too.

I see.

Slightly off-topic...

Does anyone know of a software (Linux) to compare 2 images?


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From: Bald Eagle
Subject: Re: optics.pov 3.7.0 vs 3.7.1
Date: 28 Feb 2016 09:55:01
Message: <web.56d30a02a8bce666664116940@news.povray.org>
ThH <no.spam@address> wrote:


> Slightly off-topic...
>
> Does anyone know of a software (Linux) to compare 2 images?

OpenCV library
Paint.NET
Photoshop
ImageMagick
convert img1 img2 -fx "(((255*u)&(255*(1-v)))|((255*(1-u))&(255*v)))/255"
img_out


Hope that gets you some sort of useful start...


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From: ThH
Subject: Re: optics.pov 3.7.0 vs 3.7.1
Date: 28 Feb 2016 10:08:40
Message: <56d30d78@news.povray.org>
Am 28.02.2016 um 15:53 schrieb Bald Eagle:

>> Does anyone know of a software (Linux) to compare 2 images?
>
> OpenCV library
> Paint.NET
> Photoshop
> ImageMagick
> convert img1 img2 -fx "(((255*u)&(255*(1-v)))|((255*(1-u))&(255*v)))/255"
> img_out
>
>
> Hope that gets you some sort of useful start...

I'm sure it will. Thank you Bald Eagle :)

Will try convert in a few minutes ;)


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: optics.pov 3.7.0 vs 3.7.1
Date: 28 Feb 2016 10:09:06
Message: <56d30d92$1@news.povray.org>
Am 28.02.2016 um 15:43 schrieb ThH:

> Does anyone know of a software (Linux) to compare 2 images?

If you are willing to invest a few bucks, I can highly recommend Scooter
Software's BeyondCompare 4.


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From: ThH
Subject: Re: optics.pov 3.7.0 vs 3.7.1
Date: 28 Feb 2016 10:21:04
Message: <56d31060@news.povray.org>
Am 28.02.2016 um 16:09 schrieb clipka:

> If you are willing to invest a few bucks, I can highly recommend Scooter
> Software's BeyondCompare 4.

Thank you clipka.

Think ixquick will find it for me ;)

"few bucks"... Depends on how much is few. Will find out :)


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From: ThH
Subject: Re: optics.pov 3.7.0 vs 3.7.1
Date: 28 Feb 2016 10:42:31
Message: <56d31567$1@news.povray.org>
Am 28.02.2016 um 16:09 schrieb ThH:

> Will try convert in a few minutes ;)

convert is the way for me. Thanks you for the example above Bald Eagle :))

Free and for the terminal ;)

As said before: Always learning something new :)


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From: ThH
Subject: Re: optics.pov 3.7.0 vs 3.7.1
Date: 28 Feb 2016 10:46:33
Message: <56d31659$1@news.povray.org>
Am 28.02.2016 um 16:21 schrieb ThH:

> Think ixquick will find it for me ;)
>
> "few bucks"... Depends on how much is few. Will find out :)

Ok. This is the _big_ solution ;)

Will be remember it, if I need a _big_ solution.

Thanks again clipka :)


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