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Am 14.03.2018 um 08:40 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
> The notice (STOP ON RED) generates an interesting (sociological)
> question. If such is necessary to be brought to the driver's attention,
> is it customary in the US to drive through red otherwise? Does the red
> light not suffice? Just a thought. ;-)
I was told that they have a general "right turn on red" policy, kind of
this thing generalized:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gr%C3%BCnpfeil
So in that context it does make sense.
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clipka <ano### [at] anonymous org> wrote:
> Am 14.03.2018 um 08:40 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
>
> > The notice (STOP ON RED) generates an interesting (sociological)
> > question. If such is necessary to be brought to the driver's attention,
> > is it customary in the US to drive through red otherwise? Does the red
> > light not suffice? Just a thought. ;-)
>
> I was told that they have a general "right turn on red" policy, kind of
> this thing generalized:
>
> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gr%C3%BCnpfeil
>
> So in that context it does make sense.
no, it is always 'turn right on red after stop', not 'right turn yield on red.'
on a rainy night my concern is to discern the lane boundaries, signs painted on
road surfaces are not worth considering.
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"omniverse" <omn### [at] charternet> wrote:
Scared me, being just a kid. Felt like I
> was taking some kind of magic stuff off it.
As well it should - everyone knows that's fairy dust, imbued with the breath of
a unicorn.
Scraping that little bit off has left a dark mark on your soul.
Removing any more would have plunged that part of the world into eternal
darkness.
> And another more recent memory when I felt a little silly for almost stopping to
> gather up overflow of those things when they striped the road near home. There
> was so much in one place where it must have spilled, had that same desire to get
> some of that magic again.
And again the evil resurfaces!
https://www.ebay.com/i/182302520850?chn=ps
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"Bald Eagle" <cre### [at] netscapenet> wrote:
>
> Manual On Uniform Traffic Control Devices
>
> They also specify that instead of
> STOP
> ON
> RED
>
> The first word is closest to the driver. So it it needs to be:
> RED
> ON
> STOP
>
> so that you actually DO read the words in the correct order as you drive up to
> and over them.
>
Ha, I didn't know that. I know I've seen such opposite examples now and
then--maybe some of the road-painting crews here in Virginia didn't yet learn to
read :-P (Ooh, am I being cynical about my fellow Virginians? Perish the
thought.)
Now I'll be *totally* confused at night in the rain :-O I'll have to take a
copy of the Manual with me, to thumb through as I approach the intersection...
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Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>
> The notice (STOP ON RED) generates an interesting (sociological)
> question...
More likely a question of cognitive abilities. Or lack thereof. :-P Around my
city, there are TONS of unnecessary (and duplicate!) signs on the roadways. To
'remind' people of what they're supposed to do, I guess. No real surprise,
though: If you still have all of the teeth in your head (or most of them), you
can get a driver's license. Driving ability not required.
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"Bald Eagle" <cre### [at] netscapenet> wrote:
> "omniverse" <omn### [at] charternet> wrote:
> Scared me, being just a kid. Felt like I
> > was taking some kind of magic stuff off it.
>
> As well it should - everyone knows that's fairy dust, imbued with the breath of
> a unicorn.
> Scraping that little bit off has left a dark mark on your soul.
> Removing any more would have plunged that part of the world into eternal
> darkness.
>
> > And another more recent memory when I felt a little silly for almost stopping to
> > gather up overflow of those things when they striped the road near home. There
> > was so much in one place where it must have spilled, had that same desire to get
> > some of that magic again.
>
> And again the evil resurfaces!
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/i/182302520850?chn=ps
I hadn't thought those glass spheroids would be anything less than perfect!
Well, very round anyway, for the purpose they're used for.
Quote: Roundness 65 to 95%.
In a microscope they must look something like a POV-Ray sphere offset from
center of camera look_at. ;-)
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Am 14.03.2018 um 13:01 schrieb green:
> clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
>> Am 14.03.2018 um 08:40 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
>>
>>> The notice (STOP ON RED) generates an interesting (sociological)
>>> question. If such is necessary to be brought to the driver's attention,
>>> is it customary in the US to drive through red otherwise? Does the red
>>> light not suffice? Just a thought. ;-)
>>
>> I was told that they have a general "right turn on red" policy, kind of
>> this thing generalized:
>>
>> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gr%C3%BCnpfeil
>>
>> So in that context it does make sense.
>
> no, it is always 'turn right on red after stop', not 'right turn yield on red.'
The stop is typically implied when talking about a "right turn on red"
policy. (It also is implied in the German "Grünpfeil" special rule.)
The point is, all across Europe the general policy is "NO turn on red",
except where allowed explicitly.
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Am 14.03.2018 um 13:37 schrieb Bald Eagle:
> https://www.ebay.com/i/182302520850?chn=ps
Wow - Mil spec! So this is /weapons grade/ fairy dust, huh?
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On 15-3-2018 2:46, Kenneth wrote:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>
>>
>> The notice (STOP ON RED) generates an interesting (sociological)
>> question...
>
> More likely a question of cognitive abilities. Or lack thereof. :-P Around my
> city, there are TONS of unnecessary (and duplicate!) signs on the roadways. To
> 'remind' people of what they're supposed to do, I guess. No real surprise,
> though: If you still have all of the teeth in your head (or most of them), you
> can get a driver's license. Driving ability not required.
>
That may explain things indeed... :-/
--
Thomas
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On 15-3-2018 8:04, clipka wrote:
> Am 14.03.2018 um 13:01 schrieb green:
>> clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
>>> Am 14.03.2018 um 08:40 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
>>>
>>>> The notice (STOP ON RED) generates an interesting (sociological)
>>>> question. If such is necessary to be brought to the driver's attention,
>>>> is it customary in the US to drive through red otherwise? Does the red
>>>> light not suffice? Just a thought. ;-)
>>>
>>> I was told that they have a general "right turn on red" policy, kind of
>>> this thing generalized:
>>>
>>> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gr%C3%BCnpfeil
>>>
>>> So in that context it does make sense.
>>
>> no, it is always 'turn right on red after stop', not 'right turn yield on red.'
>
> The stop is typically implied when talking about a "right turn on red"
> policy. (It also is implied in the German "Grünpfeil" special rule.)
>
> The point is, all across Europe the general policy is "NO turn on red",
> except where allowed explicitly.
>
That - fortunately - rarely applied rule of 'right turn on red' (at
least in Europe) is a potential cause for severe accidents (as the
wikipedia page implies too). In a country where bicycles are common even
more so.
[we are drifting off topic] ;-)
--
Thomas
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