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Am 14.03.2018 um 13:01 schrieb green:
> clipka <ano### [at] anonymous org> wrote:
>> Am 14.03.2018 um 08:40 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
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>>> The notice (STOP ON RED) generates an interesting (sociological)
>>> question. If such is necessary to be brought to the driver's attention,
>>> is it customary in the US to drive through red otherwise? Does the red
>>> light not suffice? Just a thought. ;-)
>>
>> I was told that they have a general "right turn on red" policy, kind of
>> this thing generalized:
>>
>> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gr%C3%BCnpfeil
>>
>> So in that context it does make sense.
>
> no, it is always 'turn right on red after stop', not 'right turn yield on red.'
The stop is typically implied when talking about a "right turn on red"
policy. (It also is implied in the German "Grünpfeil" special rule.)
The point is, all across Europe the general policy is "NO turn on red",
except where allowed explicitly.
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Am 14.03.2018 um 13:37 schrieb Bald Eagle:
> https://www.ebay.com/i/182302520850?chn=ps
Wow - Mil spec! So this is /weapons grade/ fairy dust, huh?
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On 15-3-2018 2:46, Kenneth wrote:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
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>>
>> The notice (STOP ON RED) generates an interesting (sociological)
>> question...
>
> More likely a question of cognitive abilities. Or lack thereof. :-P Around my
> city, there are TONS of unnecessary (and duplicate!) signs on the roadways. To
> 'remind' people of what they're supposed to do, I guess. No real surprise,
> though: If you still have all of the teeth in your head (or most of them), you
> can get a driver's license. Driving ability not required.
>
That may explain things indeed... :-/
--
Thomas
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On 15-3-2018 8:04, clipka wrote:
> Am 14.03.2018 um 13:01 schrieb green:
>> clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
>>> Am 14.03.2018 um 08:40 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
>>>
>>>> The notice (STOP ON RED) generates an interesting (sociological)
>>>> question. If such is necessary to be brought to the driver's attention,
>>>> is it customary in the US to drive through red otherwise? Does the red
>>>> light not suffice? Just a thought. ;-)
>>>
>>> I was told that they have a general "right turn on red" policy, kind of
>>> this thing generalized:
>>>
>>> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gr%C3%BCnpfeil
>>>
>>> So in that context it does make sense.
>>
>> no, it is always 'turn right on red after stop', not 'right turn yield on red.'
>
> The stop is typically implied when talking about a "right turn on red"
> policy. (It also is implied in the German "Grünpfeil" special rule.)
>
> The point is, all across Europe the general policy is "NO turn on red",
> except where allowed explicitly.
>
That - fortunately - rarely applied rule of 'right turn on red' (at
least in Europe) is a potential cause for severe accidents (as the
wikipedia page implies too). In a country where bicycles are common even
more so.
[we are drifting off topic] ;-)
--
Thomas
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