On Thu, 02 Sep 1999 03:34:47 -0700, Ken wrote:
>I think he was referring to the multi-group cross posting. Management really
>frowns on cross posting on this server and has been known to delete entire
>threads that were cross posted without warning. Pick one group to continue
>the discussion in and drop the rest from the list. 

I agree completely with this part.  Unnecessary crossposting is both 
rude and, well, unnecessary.  Especially when it's crossposting of binaries
to non-binaries groups.

>Unlike usenet where the
>articles are expired in a timely manner all of the articles ever posted here
>are still available for you to read through. If cross posting gets out of
>hand it will consume valuable storage resources and eventually lead to the
>server Admin having to remove articles to make room for new messages. 

Actually, if the news software is implemented correctly, it only stores
one copy of the article and keeps pointers to it in the various group
databases.  That's what the xref header is all about.  One of the worst
problems with massive crossposting, in my mind, is that some people will
modify the followup-to header (as I have, followups to p.a-u.) and 
branch the discussion in multiple ways.  Following the entire discussion
can get hard at that point.  The other problem, and the reason I've cut
this back to one group, is that many newsreaders can't automatically 
eliminate crossposted articles that have been read once, so I end up
reading every article in this thread in every group it's posted to 
when I use Agent.  Most everyone here is subscribed to most if not all
of the groups, so discussing the problem only in the most appropriate
group usually will reach someone with an answer.

>This message is as much for your sake Dennis as it is for everyone else.
>The space on this server is not infinite and should be used wisely by
>everyone who participates here. And while your at it everyone stop by
>and purchase an IRTC CD to help support this server. You'll be happy
>you did :)

I agree wholeheartedly with this part, too.

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Ron,

you said:

"...many newsreaders can't automatically eliminate crossposted
articles that have been read once, so I end up reading every article
in this thread in every group it's posted to when I use Agent."

Get the Agent 1.6 trial, the update is free. Even if you're using 1.5
(yes I see the slrn in there but you mentioned Agent :) ), have you
set up the crossposting handling in the Crossposts tab in
Group/Default Properties? It works fine for me.


Peter Popov
ICQ: 15002700

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Ron Parker wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 02 Sep 1999 03:34:47 -0700, Ken wrote:
> >I think he was referring to the multi-group cross posting. Management really
> >frowns on cross posting on this server and has been known to delete entire
> >threads that were cross posted without warning. Pick one group to continue
> >the discussion in and drop the rest from the list.

	Well, let me be the first to admit when I'm wrong.  For some reason I thought that
you
had a glorious tera-byte sized fibre optic array on the backend just because of the
size
of the posts to the animations group.  Don't hesitate to walk over and tap me on the
forehead and say "Now now, that will be enough of that."

  	In any case, maybe I'll stick to this group.  Although, thus far, I have yet to get
my
fluid animation looking the way I expected.  What I find most surprising is that the
color
red and green mix together to form black.  At least that's what I have so far.

Dennis Clarke
dcl### [at] interlogcom

ps : Now where do I go to get that IRTC cd that is so supportive.  www.povray.org
probably.  I hope you use ssl for credit cards.

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On Thu, 02 Sep 1999 22:44:07 +0200, Peter Popov wrote:
>Ron,
>
>you said:
>
>"...many newsreaders can't automatically eliminate crossposted
>articles that have been read once, so I end up reading every article
>in this thread in every group it's posted to when I use Agent."
>
>Get the Agent 1.6 trial, the update is free. Even if you're using 1.5
>(yes I see the slrn in there but you mentioned Agent :) ), have you
>set up the crossposting handling in the Crossposts tab in
>Group/Default Properties? It works fine for me.

I'm pretty sure I have.  Now I'll have to go look again.  Next time
I'm using Agent, that is. :)

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Dennis Clarke wrote:

> ps : Now where do I go to get that IRTC cd that is so supportive.  www.povray.org
> probably.  I hope you use ssl for credit cards.

You can find it at:

http://www.aussie.org/products/

David

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> 
> http://www.aussie.org/products/
> 
I was just looking at that page and was wondering if the CD included the official
binaries.  I typically run all my animation/renders on Sun hardware so I am a bit
miffed
that there is no official build of 3.1g by the POV-Ray team for Solaris 7 on
UltraSparc. 
There really are a lot of Sun machines sitting about idle at most universities and
since I
have access to a computer lab full of them I sort of expect that a Sun Solaris 7 build
should be on the CD.  How hard can it be to compile it and mark it official?

Dennis

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On Thu, 02 Sep 1999 17:18:31 -0400, Dennis Clarke wrote:
>How hard can it be to compile it and mark it official?

It's not that hard at all.  Send me (or some other Team member) an 
UltraSparc with Solaris 7 and a C compiler and We'll throw one together 
for you.

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Ron Parker wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 02 Sep 1999 17:18:31 -0400, Dennis Clarke wrote:
> >How hard can it be to compile it and mark it official?
> 
> It's not that hard at all.  Send me (or some other Team member) an
> UltraSparc with Solaris 7 and a C compiler and We'll throw one together
> for you.

You mean to say that the only thing stopping you is hardware availability?

Geez ...  I'm certain that Sun will lend you a Sun Ultra 2 for the purpose.  It
wouldn't
take more than a week to get the build optimized and ready to roll.  Where are you
located
though?  Australia?

Dennis Clarke

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Attachments:
Download 'smime.p7s.dat' (3 KB)

<snip>
>What I find most surprising is that the color
>red and green mix together to form black.
<snip>

A pure red filter removes none of the red, all of the green and all of the
blue.  A pure green filter removes all of the red, none of the green and all
of the blue.  Together they remove all the red, all the green and all the
blue.

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"Edward C." wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> >What I find most surprising is that the color
> >red and green mix together to form black.
> <snip>
> 
> A pure red filter removes none of the red, all of the green and all of the
> blue.  A pure green filter removes all of the red, none of the green and all
> of the blue.  Together they remove all the red, all the green and all the
> blue.

	I guess that I need to think of the objects as actual physical filters and not the
addition of different wavelengths of light.  I would expect the addition of red green
and
blue to be white when in fact it acts like black.  The absence of any transmitted or
reflected light.  Perhaps if I used blob components that always had a value of 1.0 for
red
or green or blue.  I wonder ....

Dennis

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