Hi Lawrence W, you recently wrote in moray.win:

> I'm glad I caught your attention.  I swear, I should just e-mail you
> directly... 
That would elicit a quicker response....

> Anyway, my issue is with the POVTXTR2.INI file that gets
> created when rendering to POV-Ray.  I've had two specific problems parsing
> that file from within POV-Ray 3.6/3.7: radiosity keyword and (I think) a
> buffer keyword. 
Check whether this is from the section that is imported from
POVTXTR.INI.

> I'll have to check my records ....
> If that's not clear, let me know and I'll reinstall POV-Ray 3.7 and post the
> exact messages.  
Yes, please do. This is the first I've heard of this, so it seems to
be isolated to your installation.

- Lutz
  email : lut### [at] stmuccom
  Web   : http://www.stmuc.com/moray

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"Lutz Kretzschmar" <lut### [at] stmuccom> schreef in bericht 
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> Yes, please do. This is the first I've heard of this, so it seems to
> be isolated to your installation.
>

Hm.... don't be so sure about that.

As far as I know from this ng, everybody (?) has trouble running Moray with 
POV-Ray 3.6 (and I suppose 3.7). The general consensus most heard is still 
to run Moray with POV-Ray 3.5......

Thomas

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Thomas de Groot schrieb:
> "Lutz Kretzschmar" <lut### [at] stmuccom> schreef in bericht 
> news:q0ebr25jl2qmjdv43ea9fl70ttigdrks9v@4ax.com...
>> Yes, please do. This is the first I've heard of this, so it seems to
>> be isolated to your installation.
>>
> 
> Hm.... don't be so sure about that.
> 
> As far as I know from this ng, everybody (?) has trouble running Moray with 
> POV-Ray 3.6 (and I suppose 3.7). The general consensus most heard is still 
> to run Moray with POV-Ray 3.5......
> 
> Thomas
> 
> 

I have both (4) installed, pov 3.5 + megapov & Pov3.6 + megapov. There 
are some compatibility problems but nothing that i would be so 
frustrated of not to use it.(Argl, what a sentence)

However I've not tried Pov3.7 yet. But Pov 3.6 / Megapov 1.2 is working 
more than o.k. for me.

Greets
Arne

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"Arne Kleinophorst" <kle### [at] spamdebitelnet> schreef in bericht 
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>>
>
> I have both (4) installed, pov 3.5 + megapov & Pov3.6 + megapov. There are 
> some compatibility problems but nothing that i would be so frustrated of 
> not to use it.(Argl, what a sentence)
>
> However I've not tried Pov3.7 yet. But Pov 3.6 / Megapov 1.2 is working 
> more than o.k. for me.
>


Well, one of the things that makes Moray and POV-Ray crash (when using 
POV-Ray 3.6), is the material preview.

Thomas

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Thomas de Groot schrieb:
> 
> 
> Well, one of the things that makes Moray and POV-Ray crash (when using 
> POV-Ray 3.6), is the material preview.
> 
> Thomas 
> 
> 
So maybe Megapov is more compatible than Povray? I've never thought 
about that.

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"Arne Kleinophorst" <kle### [at] spamdebitelnet> schreef in bericht 
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>>
> So maybe Megapov is more compatible than Povray? I've never thought about 
> that.
>

That is an interesting idea!! I have not yet tried that....
As soon as my current scenes have finished rendering today, I shall test 
Moray with megapov 1.2.1.... Who knows...

Thomas

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"Arne Kleinophorst" <kle### [at] spamdebitelnet> schreef in bericht 
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>>
> So maybe Megapov is more compatible than Povray? I've never thought about 
> that.
>

No way. I tried rendering a material with megapov 1.2.1, but Moray and 
POV-Ray froze up in the same way.
Message given: : An unexpected error occurred while trying to make POV-Ray 
render the material. (code 3)"

Thomas

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Hi Thomas de Groot, you recently wrote in moray.win:

> 
> "Lutz Kretzschmar" <lut### [at] stmuccom> schreef in bericht 
> news:q0ebr25jl2qmjdv43ea9fl70ttigdrks9v@4ax.com...
> > Yes, please do. This is the first I've heard of this, so it seems to
> > be isolated to your installation.
> >
> 
> Hm.... don't be so sure about that.
I am sure that I have never heard of there being rendering problems
related to POV-Ray parsing an exported scene.

I have heard (and reproduced the behaviour) that Moray V3.5 and
POV-Ray V3.6 (and later) cause the rendering to hang sporadically (or
more often :-)). I even tried to find the cause some time ago,
unfortunately, I was unsuccessful, probably due to the Heisenberg
Uncertainty Principle :-). As soon as I added tracing, I could not get
it to hang. This most likely means some kind of threading issue or
race condition is happening. Maybe POV-Ray 3.6 uses multiple threads
in a different way than earlier versions.

- Lutz
  email : lut### [at] stmuccom
  Web   : http://www.stmuc.com/moray

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"Lutz Kretzschmar" <lut### [at] stmuccom> schreef in bericht 
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> I am sure that I have never heard of there being rendering problems
> related to POV-Ray parsing an exported scene.
>
> I have heard (and reproduced the behaviour) that Moray V3.5 and
> POV-Ray V3.6 (and later) cause the rendering to hang sporadically (or
> more often :-)). I even tried to find the cause some time ago,
> unfortunately, I was unsuccessful, probably due to the Heisenberg
> Uncertainty Principle :-). As soon as I added tracing, I could not get
> it to hang. This most likely means some kind of threading issue or
> race condition is happening. Maybe POV-Ray 3.6 uses multiple threads
> in a different way than earlier versions.
>

The problem seems to be in the communication between Moray and POV-Ray 3.6. 
As you say, I remember that very early on you did try to solve the problem 
but could not find the glitch.
Maybe it would be valuable to make again a list of the specific problems 
happening. I wonder now if everybody who has met with some problem, have met 
with the same ones?

As mentioned in a thread above, my main problem is with the render of a 
material preview. Both Moray and POV-Ray freeze, with message "An unexpected 
error occurred while trying to make POV-Ray render the material. (code 3)".

This behaviour is... not consequent :-(
I have now also have the case where a (simple) material is rendered the 
first time, but next is not, POV-Ray telling me that "A render has completed 
but file output was turned off. No file was written. Press F1 for help on 
output file control.". After clicking OK, * something*  finishes. However, 
if I try to render the material again, Moray closes down abruptly and 
Windows asks me if I want to register a bug.

So far, what I have met with now....

Thomas

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Lutz Kretzschmar <lut### [at] stmuccom> wrote:
> Hi Thomas de Groot, you recently wrote in moray.win:
>
> >
> > "Lutz Kretzschmar" <lut### [at] stmuccom> schreef in bericht
> > news:q0ebr25jl2qmjdv43ea9fl70ttigdrks9v@4ax.com...
> > > Yes, please do. This is the first I've heard of this, so it seems to
> > > be isolated to your installation.
> > >
> >
> > Hm.... don't be so sure about that.
> I am sure that I have never heard of there being rendering problems
> related to POV-Ray parsing an exported scene.
>
> I have heard (and reproduced the behaviour) that Moray V3.5 and
> POV-Ray V3.6 (and later) cause the rendering to hang sporadically (or
> more often :-)). I even tried to find the cause some time ago,
> unfortunately, I was unsuccessful, probably due to the Heisenberg
> Uncertainty Principle :-). As soon as I added tracing, I could not get
> it to hang. This most likely means some kind of threading issue or
> race condition is happening. Maybe POV-Ray 3.6 uses multiple threads
> in a different way than earlier versions.
>
> - Lutz
>   email : lut### [at] stmuccom
>   Web   : http://www.stmuc.com/moray

I found that with moray 3.5 and povray 3.6 on win 98 , Moray is unable to
stop povray. If I start a second render before the first has stopped Povray
will hang and even needs to be reinstalled.


works just fine on windows XP.

Napivo

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