For those of you trying to get Bill's attention, I don't think he frequents 
this newsgroup. I would suggest using the IRTC discussion list 
(irt### [at] irtcorg). I know he frequents that, because he always replies to 
questions there.
Steve Shelby

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"Steve Shelby" <ssh### [at] shelbyvisioncom> wrote in message 
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> For those of you trying to get Bill's attention, I don't think he 
> frequents this newsgroup. I would suggest using the IRTC discussion list 
> (irt### [at] irtcorg). I know he frequents that, because he always replies to 
> questions there.

Thanks Steve.

I *think* I've subscribed to the mailing list, and emailed *someone*(?), but 
what I really want to know is; how does the mailing list work? Have I sent 
an email to hundreds or thousands of people?


   ~Steve~



> Steve Shelby
>

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"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:43287851@news.povray.org...
>
> "Steve Shelby" <ssh### [at] shelbyvisioncom> wrote in message 
> news:432816d5$1@news.povray.org...
>> For those of you trying to get Bill's attention, I don't think he 
>> frequents this newsgroup. I would suggest using the IRTC discussion list 
>> (irt### [at] irtcorg). I know he frequents that, because he always replies to 
>> questions there.
>
> Thanks Steve.
>
> I *think* I've subscribed to the mailing list, and emailed *someone*(?), 
> but what I really want to know is; how does the mailing list work? Have I 
> sent an email to hundreds or thousands of people?

    It's ok,  I've got it now. I found the 'archive' link. Hmm, seems there 
were a few others that didn't get their image/s accepted too. I'm not 
hassled by this, there was obviously a glitch somewhere, and it's been 
fixed.

    Ok, on to the next one... 'Opposites'. I'm liking this one already as I 
have some ok ideas... ;)

     ~Steve~


>
>
>   ~Steve~
>
>
>
>> Steve Shelby
>>
>

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St. wrote:
> "Mike the Elder" <zer### [at] wyanorg> wrote in message
> news:web.43272e087672507f11fdaad0@news.povray.org...
>
>   Yeah, I thought as much - thanks Mike.
>
>    For Bill:
>
>    Hey Bill, I'd like to help - just point me in the right direction
> and let's get this thing even better. It's worth it.

I'd be willing to help too, although not sure what I could contribute.  I'm
no expert with html or scripts etc but I've got a bit of experience and free
time / bandwidth.  What I don't understand is the huge delays when
everything seems to be fairly automated.  Why can't I start on my next piece
the moment the deadline has passed and the new topic (should be) announced?
Also, there is no reason why viewing/voting shouldn't be available right
after the deadline has passed.  There should be no need for human
interaction.

It appears there are a lot of people who are willing to help make this site
better, we just need one person to take lead and start to organise things.
There are loads of people in p.o-t who seem skilled enough to help out
should we get stuck/need advice.

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"scott" <sco### [at] spamcom> wrote in message news:43318c0d@news.povray.org...
> St. wrote:
>> "Mike the Elder" <zer### [at] wyanorg> wrote in message
>> news:web.43272e087672507f11fdaad0@news.povray.org...
>>
>>   Yeah, I thought as much - thanks Mike.
>>
>>    For Bill:
>>
>>    Hey Bill, I'd like to help - just point me in the right direction
>> and let's get this thing even better. It's worth it.
>
> I'd be willing to help too, although not sure what I could contribute. 
> I'm
> no expert with html or scripts etc but I've got a bit of experience and 
> free
> time / bandwidth.  What I don't understand is the huge delays when
> everything seems to be fairly automated.  Why can't I start on my next 
> piece
> the moment the deadline has passed and the new topic (should be) 
> announced?
> Also, there is no reason why viewing/voting shouldn't be available right
> after the deadline has passed.  There should be no need for human
> interaction.
>
> It appears there are a lot of people who are willing to help make this 
> site
> better, we just need one person to take lead and start to organise things.
> There are loads of people in p.o-t who seem skilled enough to help out
> should we get stuck/need advice.

   Scott/all...

     This was posted on the IRTC mailing list a couple of days ago in reply 
to my post there...

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St. wrote...

   >Hey all, (Bill?)
>
>    Not sure how this mailing list thing works, but anyway...
>
>     Some of us povers have posted messages in irtc.stills offering to
> help out with the IRTC.
>
>     Is this possible? I'd like to help in some way if I can.


Hi,

Sorry for taking so long to reply.

Thanks for the offer(s) of help.

Strange as it may seem, I don't think we really need help.  Help implies
that someone has to manage the helpers and none of us is up to that.  We
have a set of things we each do.  These things are not that hard for us,
but they are a little technical and specialized.  Setting it up so someone
else could do a part of it would be more work than it's worth.


Personally, I've decided to step down as an IRTC admin.  I'm hoping to
train a replacement soon.  I suspect this can be done fairly easily without
any apparent disruptions.

-bill

-----------------------------------------

  So, it seems things are getting sorted out. It seems a bit more 
complicated than I first thought, but I was looking more at processing some 
images rather than anything computer heavy.

    Anyway, there ya go...

    ~Steve~

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> Hi,
>
> Sorry for taking so long to reply.
>
> Thanks for the offer(s) of help.
>
> Strange as it may seem, I don't think we really need help.  Help
> implies that someone has to manage the helpers and none of us is up
> to that.  We have a set of things we each do.  These things are not
> that hard for us, but they are a little technical and specialized.
> Setting it up so someone else could do a part of it would be more
> work than it's worth.
>
>
> Personally, I've decided to step down as an IRTC admin.  I'm hoping to
> train a replacement soon.  I suspect this can be done fairly easily
> without any apparent disruptions.
>
> -bill
>
> -----------------------------------------
>
>   So, it seems things are getting sorted out. It seems a bit more
> complicated than I first thought,

It does seem strange that he doesn't think they need help.  It's not very
good that the competition does not get announced for one or two weeks after
it starts when it is only 8 weeks long!  Especially as it would be easy to
make it get announced automatically.  If getting and organising the help is
more work than it's worth, then perhaps it's for the best that a new person
is taking over.

But yep, let's wait and see about the replacement.  Hopefully they will have
more time to improve the site or be willing to allow others to help.  I
guess if it comes to it we can always make a new website aimed specifically
at the POV community.

> but I was looking more at
> processing some images rather than anything computer heavy.

OOC, what sort of human processing needs to be done?  I thought they had an
automatic script that just checked everything in the submission was valid,
then emailed you if it wasn't.

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"scott" <sco### [at] spamcom> wrote in message news:433272c7$1@news.povray.org...
>> Hi,
>>
>> Sorry for taking so long to reply.
>>
>> Thanks for the offer(s) of help.
>>
>> Strange as it may seem, I don't think we really need help.  Help
>> implies that someone has to manage the helpers and none of us is up
>> to that.  We have a set of things we each do.  These things are not
>> that hard for us, but they are a little technical and specialized.
>> Setting it up so someone else could do a part of it would be more
>> work than it's worth.
>>
>>
>> Personally, I've decided to step down as an IRTC admin.  I'm hoping to
>> train a replacement soon.  I suspect this can be done fairly easily
>> without any apparent disruptions.
>>
>> -bill
>>
>> -----------------------------------------
>>
>>   So, it seems things are getting sorted out. It seems a bit more
>> complicated than I first thought,
>
> It does seem strange that he doesn't think they need help.  It's not very
> good that the competition does not get announced for one or two weeks 
> after
> it starts when it is only 8 weeks long!

 This is why I asked some time ago if it could be extended to three 
months...


 Especially as it would be easy to
> make it get announced automatically.  If getting and organising the help 
> is
> more work than it's worth, then perhaps it's for the best that a new 
> person
> is taking over.

   Well, Bill has done a good job over the years, (voluntarily), and like 
all things computer-wise, it's probably boring in the end...

    (The man hasn't had time for Poving himself).


>
> But yep, let's wait and see about the replacement.  Hopefully they will 
> have
> more time to improve the site or be willing to allow others to help.  I
> guess if it comes to it we can always make a new website aimed 
> specifically
> at the POV community.

    Now that's a good idea - at least us Povers would get their images 
included. If you haven't noticed this round, I didn't get my three images 
included, and a few others didn't too because of some glitch. I really 
wanted to vote and comment on this round, but now I can't do that.


>
>> but I was looking more at
>> processing some images rather than anything computer heavy.
>
> OOC, what sort of human processing needs to be done?  I thought they had 
> an
> automatic script that just checked everything in the submission was valid,
> then emailed you if it wasn't.

    I don't know. I haven't a clue. I guess there's some batch processing 
going on somewhere, (the thumbnail images?), but if it came to scripts and 
stuff, well, I could handle that as long as I was shown how to do it.

   Let's just see what happens...

    ~Steve~



>
>

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>  Especially as it would be easy to
>> make it get announced automatically.  If getting and organising the
>> help is
>> more work than it's worth, then perhaps it's for the best that a new
>> person
>> is taking over.
>
>    Well, Bill has done a good job over the years, (voluntarily), and
> like all things computer-wise, it's probably boring in the end...
>
>     (The man hasn't had time for Poving himself).

Yeh sorry that sounded a bit harsh from me.  What I meant was that if Bill
is getting bored or not having enough time, then fair enough, it's expected,
and good that someone with some new enthusiasm takes over.

>    Let's just see what happens...

Definitely.

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