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From: Wolfox
Subject: An idea for the IRTC
Date: 16 Sep 2002 12:57:17
Message: <3d860d6d@news.povray.org>
Feel free to use it, cause I won't have the time. Here's the picture as 
I imagine it.

<idea>
On the background there can be seen two of the most spectacular 
landscapes in Mars: Mount Olympus, a silent vulcan more than 30km high, 
and a gigantic canyon more than 30 km deep. It's a beautiful Martian 
morning.

On the foreground, alien tourists observe and take photographs of the 
landscape, awed by its beauty... not leaving without some souvenirs from 
the green men stores.
</idea>

As I said, if you think the idea above is good, feel free to use it. I'd 
really like to see the outcome for that. :-)

Regards...

Wolfox

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From: Mark Wagner
Subject: Re: An idea for the IRTC
Date: 17 Sep 2002 00:06:22
Message: <pan.2002.09.17.04.05.31.506422.210@gte.net>
On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 13:00:27 -0400, Wolfox quoth:

> Feel free to use it, cause I won't have the time. Here's the picture as
> I imagine it.
> 
> <idea>
> On the background there can be seen two of the most spectacular
> landscapes in Mars: Mount Olympus, a silent vulcan more than 30km high,
> and a gigantic canyon more than 30 km deep. It's a beautiful Martian
> morning.
> 
> On the foreground, alien tourists observe and take photographs of the
> landscape, awed by its beauty... not leaving without some souvenirs from
> the green men stores.
> </idea>

Only one problem: Mount Olympus isn't very impressive.  It may be the
tallest mountain in the solar system, but it's also the widest: about 450
km wide.  The end result is a mountain that you can climb to the top of
without noticing that you are going uphill.  And I suspect that when we
actually get to Mars, we'll find that Vallas Marinaris is too big to be
impressive.

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Mark


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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: An idea for the IRTC
Date: 17 Sep 2002 06:07:47
Message: <3d86fef3$1@news.povray.org>
"Mark Wagner" <mar### [at] gtenet> wrote in message
news:pan### [at] gtenet...

> actually get to Mars, we'll find that Vallas Marinaris is too big to be
> impressive.

Awww - Doctor Manhattan thought it was cool.


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From: Veijo Vilva
Subject: Re: An idea for the IRTC
Date: 17 Sep 2002 06:25:05
Message: <web.3d8702208573994f9e593f3c0@news.povray.org>
Tom Melly wrote:
>"Mark Wagner" <mar### [at] gtenet> wrote in message
>news:pan### [at] gtenet...
>
>> actually get to Mars, we'll find that Vallas Marinaris is too big to be
>> impressive.
>
>Awww - Doctor Manhattan thought it was cool.
>

There are some Mars Orbiter Laser Altimeter Data based renderings of Valles
Marineris at

  http://www.astrosurf.com/planete-mars/goursac/marineris.html


    Veijo


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From: Txemi Jendrix
Subject: RE: An idea for the IRTC
Date: 17 Sep 2002 16:13:17
Message: <3d878cdd@news.povray.org>

noticias web.3d8702208573994f9e593f3c0@news.povray.org...
> There are some Mars Orbiter Laser Altimeter Data based renderings of
Valles
> Marineris at
>
>   http://www.astrosurf.com/planete-mars/goursac/marineris.html

You can find terrains and meshes of terrains from Mars in Lightwave,
Terragen and 8bit bmp format at

http://www.space-graphics.com/

Hope this helps

Txemi Jendrix
tji### [at] txemijendrixcom
http://www.txemijendrix.com


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: An idea for the IRTC
Date: 17 Sep 2002 17:21:22
Message: <3D879CD1.F3D0060F@gmx.de>
Txemi Jendrix wrote:
> 
> You can find terrains and meshes of terrains from Mars in Lightwave,
> Terragen and 8bit bmp format at
> 
> http://www.space-graphics.com/

And you can find the full quality data at:

http://wufs.wustl.edu/missions/mgs/mola/egdr.html#IEGDR

Christoph

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From: Bob Franke
Subject: Re: An idea for the IRTC
Date: 18 Sep 2002 15:25:03
Message: <web.3d88d1898573994f976d0e5a0@news.povray.org>
Mark Wagner wrote:
>On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 13:00:27 -0400, Wolfox quoth:
>
>> Feel free to use it, cause I won't have the time. Here's the picture as
>> I imagine it.
>>
>> <idea>
>> On the background there can be seen two of the most spectacular
>> landscapes in Mars: Mount Olympus, a silent vulcan more than 30km high,
>> and a gigantic canyon more than 30 km deep. It's a beautiful Martian
>> morning.
>>
>> On the foreground, alien tourists observe and take photographs of the
>> landscape, awed by its beauty... not leaving without some souvenirs from
>> the green men stores.
>> </idea>
>
>Only one problem: Mount Olympus isn't very impressive.  It may be the
>tallest mountain in the solar system, but it's also the widest: about 450
>km wide.  The end result is a mountain that you can climb to the top of
>without noticing that you are going uphill.  And I suspect that when we
>actually get to Mars, we'll find that Vallas Marinaris is too big to be
>impressive.
>
>Mark
>

This is true, Vallas Marinaris is very flat.  I used it for my enty in the
Winderness round and to make the image more interesting I had to stretch
the data vertically. (just like NASA).
See...
http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/2000-06-30/mars.txt
http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/2000-06-30/mars.jpg
-bob


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From: Wolfox
Subject: Re: An idea for the IRTC
Date: 19 Sep 2002 09:23:21
Message: <3d89cfc9@news.povray.org>
>>Only one problem: Mount Olympus isn't very impressive.  It may be the
>>tallest mountain in the solar system, but it's also the widest: about 450
>>km wide.  The end result is a mountain that you can climb to the top of
>>without noticing that you are going uphill.  And I suspect that when we
>>actually get to Mars, we'll find that Vallas Marinaris is too big to be
>>impressive.

> This is true, Vallas Marinaris is very flat.  I used it for my enty in the
> Winderness round and to make the image more interesting I had to stretch
> the data vertically. (just like NASA).

Exactly what I thought. Make them impressive, or put the proposed 
landscape in another planet - I just thought it to be a original idea 
with a little touch of humor. Mars in an excuse for the landscape actually.

I guess anyone who wants to do something like that must think as people 
think on space flicks: there's no sound in space, and no soft 
shadows/radiosity as well, but all movies use it for one reason only: to 
make things interesting. So stretch the canyon and the mountain if you 
have to, but make them look impressive. :-)


highly desirable. :-)

Wolfox
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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: An idea for the IRTC
Date: 19 Sep 2002 18:46:41
Message: <3D8A5336.8070708@videotron.ca>
Wolfox wrote:
> I guess anyone who wants to do something like that must think as people 
> think on space flicks: there's no sound in space, and no soft 
> shadows/radiosity as well,

Would you care to expand on the "no radiosity" theory?

 > but all movies use it for one reason only: to
> make things interesting. So stretch the canyon and the mountain if you 
> have to, but make them look impressive. :-)
> 

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