Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote:
> On Thu,  3 Jul 2008 18:48:31 EDT, "Robert McGregor" <rob### [at] mcgregorfineartcom>
> wrote:
>
> >Okay, wait a minute Steven, you're saying that with all of those alternate
> >scoring options: the straight average, weighted average, or the original score
> >and 20-20-20 voting bonus methods, that I, rmcgregor, actually got 1st place?
> >
> >LOL. Well, I worked a LOT harder on "Slaver's Gorge" than I have on any of my
> >previous entries, so that makes my poor little ego feel somewhat better, heh!
> >
> >Thanks :)
> >-Rob
> >
> Yes I did work it out that way. Sums available on request :)
> If you had not voted I think that you would have won outright. But you did and
> I'm sure that you sleep better for it :)
> Unfortunately I couldn't get my score higher than sixth but that serves me right
> for uploading a placeholder and not finishing the scene. :)
> I got distracted with an entry for the animation challenge.
>
> --
>
> Regards
>      Stephen

Thanks Stephen, I'm still not sure how me NOT voting would have made my overall
score better
(that's just counterintuitive). Regardless, why would an entrant WANT to
NOT vote? That's part of participating in the competition as far as I'm
concerned. Maybe there should be penalties for NOT voting.

-Rob

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On Mon,  7 Jul 2008 16:02:33 EDT, "Robert McGregor" <rob### [at] mcgregorfineartcom>
wrote:

>
>Thanks Stephen, I'm still not sure how me NOT voting would have made my overall
>score better

Your total score would not have been better but everyone elses would have been
lower. Making your ranking higher.

>(that's just counterintuitive). Regardless, why would an entrant WANT to
>NOT vote? 

So they win ;)

>That's part of participating in the competition as far as I'm
>concerned. 

Me too.

>Maybe there should be penalties for NOT voting.

It may come to pass :)
-- 

Regards
     Stephen

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> Well the credit goes to Steve. He set up the site and maintains it.

Heh (embarrassed), I got you guys mixed up... maybe I should try to slow down
and read more carefully, I mean, I do know Steve is St.

Anyway, I think he too must have read the message, no need to repeat in another
post ;) Right?

Hildur K

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On Tue,  8 Jul 2008 05:28:52 EDT, "Hildur K." <hil### [at] 3dcafemailevery1net>
wrote:

>
>
>> Well the credit goes to Steve. He set up the site and maintains it.
>
>Heh (embarrassed), I got you guys mixed up... maybe I should try to slow down
>and read more carefully, I mean, I do know Steve is St.

No worries :)

>Anyway, I think he too must have read the message, no need to repeat in another
>post ;) Right?
>

Right ;)
-- 

Regards
     Stephen

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Hey, hi Hildur, nice to see you're still around, and thanks for the 
encouraging thoughts, much appreciated.

  Yes, Colin and myself are doing our best to get this right, and so far, so 
good. I have to admit that it surely isn't the easiest of things to get 
right though because it seems something 'happens' every time it's tested. ;) 
And then these things have to be ironed-out and honed, (hopefully).

  But yes, the standard of images for me personally are certainly *very* 
inspiring. I actually feel honored in some strange way that these guys are 
producing these images for the comp. (Not including myself of course...)  ;)

   Anyway, I think it's working and as long as everyone thinks of it as 
'Fun' in a hobby kind of way, then all should be good. :)

  Hey, and don't worry about not entering, I'm sure you will one day and 
I'll look forward to that. :)

     ~Steve~


"Hildur K." <hil### [at] 3dcafemailevery1net> wrote in message 
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>I was looking through the images this round and I found there are several

> mind
> about. This is highly unusual as I normally have only a one or two 
> absolute
> favorites.
>
> There is a stunning quality throughout and you Steve can be proud to be a 
> part
> of this (or should I say the creator of this) competition.
>
> Yeah I know, too bad I never seem to find the time to participate.
>
> Well, maybe the next round.... one can dream....
>

> The
> rules have been improved and the submissions are improving as well, 
> meaning
> that people are taking this seriously and putting an extra effort into 
> their
> work. Which is great.
>
> Anyway, just wanted to say hi!
>
> Hildur Kolbrun
>
>
>

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"Robert McGregor" <rob### [at] mcgregorfineartcom> wrote in message 
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> "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:

> So, someone was trying to skew the results, eh? Bah! Baahh!!
> Okay, we're watching you guys...

 Heh... :) Well, yes, I see everything anyway, but let's just say that I 
'hope' it doesn't happen again.

> I think this month was the first time that the voting app was really 
> intuitive
> and functioning the way I expected, good visual feedback on which images 
> had
> been voted on already, and love the expandable comment box, etc - really 
> nice
> job on that Steve! (I know how troublesome that sort of thing can become)

   I wish that was me that did that, but no, it was my website coder guru, 
Colin. (He would love that!)  ;)

>
> One bug I need to report is that it didn't put me 1st place this round - 
> can
> you look into that please ;?  Stephen apparently has mathematical options 
> where
> I always win (woot!)...
>

   Lol! Heh, just be happy that you are an extremely good artist, and that 
this wannabe artist wishes he had your talent.* :)

    *Working on it.  ;)

      ~Steve~



> -Rob :)
>
> "There is no spoon."

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>
>   Hey, and don't worry about not entering, I'm sure you will one day and
> I'll look forward to that. :)
>
>      ~Steve~

Thanks Steve :)


like the most (you may guess what that is) for a living) and having too many
other diverse interests and hobbies on the side as well, has taken all my time
and energy in the last couple of years.

On a more positive note: it can be done! All I know I learned from the IRTC and
you guys and this community and from trial and error of course. So I owe a lot
to you!



most of the time.

Hildur

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"Hildur K." <hil### [at] 3dcafemailevery1net> schreef in bericht 
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>
>

> and I

> invisible
> most of the time.
>

Ha! But we feel the eye of the master...!  ;-)

Thomas

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> Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote:
>
> Thanks Stephen, I'm still not sure how me NOT voting would have made my 
> overall
> score better
> (that's just counterintuitive). Regardless, why would an entrant WANT to
> NOT vote? That's part of participating in the competition as far as I'm
> concerned. Maybe there should be penalties for NOT voting.
>

For some obscure reason I have not visited this ng for a long time, so I 
come in late in the discussion.

I certainly would like there to be some incentive (should I say coercion??) 
for voting. The competition gets sense if the participants also vote. Apart 
from the reason that not voting might lift you up (I am still unsure about 
that as a purposeful action), and reasons of strict personal impossibility 
which can always happen (I was physically unable to vote for the 
november-december topic for instance), my impression would be that it is 
pure, raw, laziness to just take the trouble to vote. Human nature in action 
as it were?

Thomas

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"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet> wrote:
> "Hildur K." <hil### [at] 3dcafemailevery1net> schreef in bericht
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> >
> >

> > and I

> > invisible
> > most of the time.
> >
>
> Ha! But we feel the eye of the master...!  ;-)
>
> Thomas


Me the "master", ha, ha, right! Big Brother (um... sister) is watching!

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