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From: Norbert Kern
Subject: new topic announced!
Date: 3 Jul 2006 10:15:01
Message: <web.44a8edc888f3b1e3c398b7380@news.povray.org>
New topic is 'From Rubbage Bin to Junkyard'.
( http://irtc.org/ftp/.message )

Entries of the 'Light and Fog' round can be downloaded from
http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/2006-06-30/

Good luck to all who made an entry.

Norbert Kern


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From: St 
Subject: Re: new topic announced!
Date: 3 Jul 2006 10:20:33
Message: <44a8ef71@news.povray.org>
"Norbert Kern" <nor### [at] t-onlinede> wrote in message 
news:web.44a8edc888f3b1e3c398b7380@news.povray.org...
> New topic is 'From Rubbage Bin to Junkyard'.
> ( http://irtc.org/ftp/.message )

     Thanks Norbert. I think I'll enjoy this one! :)

     ~Steve~


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: new topic announced!
Date: 7 Jul 2006 14:44:34
Message: <44ae7352$1@news.povray.org>
Just being pedantic here ... Is that rubbish or garbage?
;-)

John
-- 
"Please refrain from fondling the nymphs and sprites - it makes them giggly
and skittish.
Thank you for your co-operation.
The Management"


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From: Mike Williams
Subject: Re: new topic announced!
Date: 7 Jul 2006 15:00:55
Message: <WQXmrQAPTnrEFwhS@econym.demon.co.uk>
Wasn't it Doctor John who wrote:
>Just being pedantic here ... Is that rubbish or garbage?
>;-)

I looked it up in an American dictionary. Apparently it's an alternative
American way of spelling "rubbish".

-- 
Mike Williams
Gentleman of Leisure


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From: Sherry Shaw
Subject: Re: new topic announced!
Date: 7 Jul 2006 16:04:58
Message: <44ae862a@news.povray.org>
Mike Williams wrote:

>Wasn't it Doctor John who wrote:
>  
>
>>Just being pedantic here ... Is that rubbish or garbage?
>>;-)
>>    
>>
>
>I looked it up in an American dictionary. Apparently it's an alternative
>American way of spelling "rubbish".
>
>  
>
Didn't find it in either of my American dictionaries.  Google had no 
definitions.  Spellchecker in Word suggested that perhaps I meant 
ribcage or cubage or cribbage or rub age (?) or rebate or rubbing or 
urbane (though this may be the work of Evil Paperclip Man).  Unless it's 
seriously local (like the Sea Islands or that place where they speak 
Boontling), I don't think it's ours.

--Sherry Shaw

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From: Hildur K 
Subject: Re: new topic announced!
Date: 8 Jul 2006 11:15:01
Message: <web.44af92b319d8e5fc1ac30bde0@news.povray.org>
Dictionary.com gives the same, it´s an alternative to "rubbish"

Anyway I looked it up at unwords.com and got the following definitions:

1. (n.) Large pieces of truck tire found on the side of the road.

2. (n.) An act of vigorously rubbing a dog's belly while speaking to the dog
in baby-talk.

Hm... wonder how to implement that in an image. :-)


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From: Sherry Shaw
Subject: Re: new topic announced!
Date: 8 Jul 2006 16:30:52
Message: <44afddbc@news.povray.org>
Hildur K. wrote:

>Dictionary.com gives the same, it´s an alternative to "rubbish"
>
>Anyway I looked it up at unwords.com and got the following definitions:
>
>1. (n.) Large pieces of truck tire found on the side of the road.
>
>  
>

Also known as "road alligators"...

>2. (n.) An act of vigorously rubbing a dog's belly while speaking to the dog
>in baby-talk.
>
>  
>

"Oooooh, him a DOOD dog!  Es him IS!  Es him IS!  Him a DOOD DOG!"  One 
of life's great joys.


--Sherry Shaw

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From: Greg M  Johnson
Subject: Re: new topic announced!
Date: 23 Jul 2006 02:09:27
Message: <44c2da55@news.povray.org>
Norbert Kern wrote:

> New topic is 'From Rubbage Bin to Junkyard'.



My pedantic question is in regarding the "from" and "to".  Could there be a
different stress on this meaning, say in other countries?


Do you think this should mean:

i) The process of taking things from where humans discard items out of their
households to the long term storage (dumps),

or

ii) The exploration of any and all themes including anything from where
humans discard items out of their households to the long term storage
(dumps).


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From: Thomas A  Fine
Subject: Re: new topic announced!
Date: 25 Jul 2006 16:09:36
Message: <44c64240$1@news.povray.org>
In article <44c2da55@news.povray.org>,
Greg M. Johnson <pte### [at] thecommononethatstartswithYcom> wrote:
>Norbert Kern wrote:
>
>> New topic is 'From Rubbage Bin to Junkyard'.
>[...]
>Do you think this should mean:
>
>i) The process of taking things from where humans discard items out of their
>households to the long term storage (dumps),
>
>ii) The exploration of any and all themes including anything from where
>humans discard items out of their households to the long term storage
>(dumps).

Either.  It's not like irtc rejects images which are not exactly on
topic, and in some cases they reward them if the reinterpretation is
original, and interesting.  That's why they have the "Honorable Mention:
Concept, Originality, Interpretation of Theme" category.

For instance, if I had entered the last competition, I was considering
an interior scene, a man opening a gift, to find a lamp shaped like
a FROG.  The title would be "Marge! I said FOG light."

My overly pedantic take on this theme is that things don't go from
the "rubbage bin" (whatever the hell that is) to the Junkyard.
They go to the dump.  Junkyards are places where items which might
be resold and reused are taken.  I guess that argues more for your
second interpretation.  Still, I imagine a lot of people
will not catch that, and we'll see lots of garbage trucks and maybe
a few trash barges being entered.

        tom


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From: P Brewer
Subject: Re: new topic announced!
Date: 25 Jul 2006 16:40:00
Message: <web.44c648a119d8e5fc8af060f60@news.povray.org>
>
> Either.  It's not like irtc rejects images which are not exactly on
> topic, and in some cases they reward them if the reinterpretation is
> original, and interesting.  That's why they have the "Honorable Mention:
> Concept, Originality, Interpretation of Theme" category.
>
> For instance, if I had entered the last competition, I was considering
> an interior scene, a man opening a gift, to find a lamp shaped like
> a FROG.  The title would be "Marge! I said FOG light."
>
> My overly pedantic take on this theme is that things don't go from
> the "rubbage bin" (whatever the hell that is) to the Junkyard.
> They go to the dump.  Junkyards are places where items which might
> be resold and reused are taken.  I guess that argues more for your
> second interpretation.  Still, I imagine a lot of people
> will not catch that, and we'll see lots of garbage trucks and maybe
> a few trash barges being entered.
>
>         tom


tom,

I've seen how in the past people allow for some liberal interpretation of
theme, and hope they continue to do so. I plan to enter the current round
and because of the contrast between garbage and junkyard, I took the topic
in more of a "cast-off, unwanted, forgotten, neglected, etc." sense. Of
course, I had commited to my scene idea before the notes on the topic came
out. They seem to indicate traditional garbage, and now I wonder how I fit
with the theme.

Phil


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