This is how the ratings in the History of Science round are distributed:

 1st place - no. of ratings 8
 2nd place - no. of ratings 7
 3rd place - no. of ratings 7
 4th place - no. of ratings 6
 5th place - no. of ratings 5
 6th place - no. of ratings 5
 7th place - no. of ratings 3
 8th place - no. of ratings 3
 9th place - no. of ratings 1

Obviously only one submission has received votes from all voters.


Hildur

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"Hildur K." <hil### [at] 3dcafemailevery1net> schreef in bericht 
news:web.46deaa94e14db43d625d3df20@news.povray.org...
> This is how the ratings in the History of Science round are distributed:
>
> 1st place - no. of ratings 8
> 2nd place - no. of ratings 7
> 3rd place - no. of ratings 7
> 4th place - no. of ratings 6
> 5th place - no. of ratings 5
> 6th place - no. of ratings 5
> 7th place - no. of ratings 3
> 8th place - no. of ratings 3
> 9th place - no. of ratings 1
>
> Obviously only one submission has received votes from all voters.

>

Wow!!  I admit that I had not looked this closely. So it means that voting 
is just not finished at all. In fact, thinking about it, that is just what I 
assumed also for some reason when I  voted on  september 1st. I didn't pay 
much attention to what image got what place. I was a bit puzzled though, 
about my image being first. That was not really my own opinion...

Thomas

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Hi Steve,

hope you're doing better? Has the tc-rtc admin team any 
plans on tweaking the voting system, or re-running the last 
vote with all submission in place, in the making?
Just asking out of curiousity, as always :)

-Markus

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"Markus Altendorff" <maa### [at] anthrosphinxde> wrote in message 
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> Hi Steve,
>
> hope you're doing better?

    Illness-wise? I never was ill*. I meant in the first instance that I 
felt bad letting all you guys down.  :o(

     *But that's debatable in an everyday family kind of way.


 Has the tc-rtc admin team any
> plans on tweaking the voting system, or re-running the last vote with all 
> submission in place, in the making?
> Just asking out of curiousity, as always :)

    Yes, I know Markus... This is all being dealt with. As soon as it is 
dealt with, I'll post the news, but please be patient, I've got two arms and 
two legs to 'play origami with' first...  ;)

      ~Steve~



>
> -Markus

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St. wrote:

>     Yes, I know Markus... This is all being dealt with. As soon as it is 
> dealt with, I'll post the news, but please be patient, I've got two arms and 
> two legs to 'play origami with' first...  ;)
> 

Okay, that's the sound of me shutting up now. :)

-M

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"Markus Altendorff" <maa### [at] anthrosphinxde> wrote in message 
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> St. wrote:
>
>>     Yes, I know Markus... This is all being dealt with. As soon as it is 
>> dealt with, I'll post the news, but please be patient, I've got two arms 
>> and two legs to 'play origami with' first...  ;)
>>
>
> Okay, that's the sound of me shutting up now. :)

    No, please don't, I appreciate your thoughts, and what you say. 
Seriously.

    I know I fk'd up bigtime, and that's hard for me to take, but today, I 
received an email from someone (a Pover) that explained it in text in a way 
that will enlighten said origami figure even though I've explained it all 
verbally *many* times now.

    If you can decipher that Markus, (and I'm sure you can), then you will 
know where *I'm* coming from.

      Later,

     ~Steve~



>
> -M

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St. wrote:
>     I know I fk'd up bigtime, and that's hard for me to take, but today, I 
> received an email from someone (a Pover) that explained it in text in a way 
> that will enlighten said origami figure even though I've explained it all 
> verbally *many* times now.
> 
>     If you can decipher that Markus, (and I'm sure you can), then you will 
> know where *I'm* coming from.

Ah!

Uh.

(scratch scratch)

... no? :)

You lost me somewhere in there - i've a "useful" grip on the 
english language when it comes to user's manuals and reading 
web pages, but i'm afraid i may lack the understanding of 
the finer things of origami. i.e. i just know there's some 
message in your paragraphs above that keeps on escaping me. :)

Hey, and no need to feel bad just because it wasn't perfect 
on the first try! You managed to make a "living" webpage 
available, and that's more than can be said for the IRTC 
right now!

We all live and learn :)

-M

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Markus Altendorff wrote:
> Ah!
> 
> Uh.
> 
> (scratch scratch)
> 
> ... no? :)
> 
> You lost me somewhere in there - i've a "useful" grip on the english 
> language when it comes to user's manuals and reading web pages, but i'm 
> afraid i may lack the understanding of the finer things of origami. i.e. 
> i just know there's some message in your paragraphs above that keeps on 
> escaping me. :)

Well, I'm a native English speaker (well, at least as close as Americans 
can get) and he lost me, too.

-- 
William Tracy
afi### [at] gmailcom wtr### [at] calpolyedu

You know you've been raytracing too long when you know exactly what a 
scene look likes after reading only its POV script.
     -- Taps a.k.a. Tapio Vocadlo

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"Markus Altendorff" <maa### [at] anthrosphinxde> wrote in message 
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> St. wrote:

>>     If you can decipher that Markus, (and I'm sure you can), then you 
>> will know where *I'm* coming from.
>
> Ah!
>
> Uh.
>
> (scratch scratch)
>
> ... no? :)

     Then my code worked.  :)


>
> You lost me somewhere in there - i've a "useful" grip on the english 
> language when it comes to user's manuals and reading web pages, but i'm 
> afraid i may lack the understanding of the finer things of origami. i.e. i 
> just know there's some message in your paragraphs above that keeps on 
> escaping me. :)

     Well, it's easy really. What do you do with origami? Bend it, fold it, 
twist it, bend it, fold it, twist it. Put this in context with the words 
'arms' and 'legs', and it becomes clearer. The reference to "said origami 
figure" is a kind of euphemism for the word 'Colin'.  ;)

   Seriously, here lies the problem. I say "do A" and he does "B". But, you 
have to understand where he's coming from too. I've explained what the 
community is like here, I've explained how 'passionate' we all are about 
this, I've explained how long we've all been doing this, and I've explained 
how hard we all work at our hobby. I've explained that some projects can 
result in 1+GB folders (my folder for the image "Dumped" 
http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/2006-08-31/dumped.jpg is 1.51GB!) 
indicating *how* hard we work at it. But, he just doesn't understand it at 
all.

   I saw him last week and asked if we could have the voting period extended 
to after all the images and animations are in and he says "Why?" "It's all 
there for them, why don't they just vote?", and I say "Well, these guys are 
from all around the world, different time zones and such", and he says, 
"Well, why don't they just make *sure* that they vote on time?" And I say, 
"yes, but this is a hobby, people have to work and then do their hobby in 
their spare time, so sometimes they're hard-pushed to get to the deadline on 
time, and anyway, if a guy has worked his/her butt off and uploads at the 
last minute, then surely that isn't fair to that person who will get a low 
vote for possibly the best image/animation." So then he says, "Well, why 
don't you announce all the topics for the whole year, that way they know the 
topics in advance and can work on their images/animations with plenty of 
time to spare, so everyone should get fair votes."

   Me: "But that won't work."

   Him: "Why?"

   Me: "Because it leaves room for cheating."

   Him: "Cheating?? Who are we dealing with here?"


    See? See what I'm up against? The upshot of all this is that I'd ask you 
guys if  announcing the topic a week earlier would be ok, thereby 
effectively giving us all a weeks grace to finish our images/animations and 
then (in theory) have time available to vote and comment in that last week. 
So, I'll leave that for you all to comment on.

   Meanwhile, there are other issues too. Friday afternoon, I received the 
FTP PW and UN, but, it's absolutely useless. Everything is tied into the 
database with coding, stuff like; $CURRENT and $BODY, and I'm no coder, so I 
can't physically 'do' anything myself, well, not in a normal HTML way, that 
is. I tried it. If I change *one* letter on that home page, it kills the 
"view the winning image" links, and the two thumb links, but *not* the other 
links underneath, oh no, they're fine. It's just plain weird. So I've got to 
get that sorted out, (if I can).

    Anyway, today, I'm sending the email that I received yesterday to Colin 
because 1) it explains everything in a way that's so much better than I've 
explained it already, but also confirms what I've explained, and 2) it's not 
coming from me. Fingers crossed.


>
> Hey, and no need to feel bad just because it wasn't perfect on the first 
> try!

   But I do feel bad Markus. At the moment, I'm a very emotional guy, (I've 
always been emotional, but the things that are happening around me right now 
have boosted that by 100%). It's like I'm losing every battle with 
everything I do, and I'm being dragged backwards, not making strives 
forwards. It's a weird feeling, because outwardly, I'm a strong guy that can 
take it on the chin, but inside, it's just not good. I feel like a 
hard-boiled egg waiting to be peeled.



You managed to make a "living" webpage
> available, and that's more than can be said for the IRTC right now!
>
> We all live and learn :)


   Well, "It ain't over 'til the fat lady sings!"  :)

     ~Steve~



>
> -M

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St. wrote:
> 
>    Seriously, here lies the problem. I say "do A" and he does "B". But, you 
> have to understand where he's coming from too. I've explained what the 
> community is like here, I've explained how 'passionate' we all are about 
> this, I've explained how long we've all been doing this, and I've explained 
> how hard we all work at our hobby. I've explained that some projects can 
> result in 1+GB folders (my folder for the image "Dumped" 
> http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/2006-08-31/dumped.jpg is 1.51GB!) 
> indicating *how* hard we work at it. But, he just doesn't understand it at 
> all.
> 

Odd... i thought the very idea of "voting while the list on the ballot 
keeps on changing" would seem strange to *anyone* :)

>    Well, "It ain't over 'til the fat lady sings!"  :)

That figure of speech i know ! :)
(thanks to my two decades of listening to pop music - The Lightning 
Seeds do have this line in one of their singles)

-M

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