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From: Tom Melly
Subject: grumble
Date: 3 May 2001 05:13:02
Message: <3af1211e$1@news.povray.org>
I competitors submit images any smaller than some of the entries in this
round, we're going to have to start viewing the thumbnails to see the
details....

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"To stop children being afraid of the dark, try to fill their daylight hours
with as much terror as possible"
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From: Adrien Beau
Subject: Re: grumble
Date: 3 May 2001 05:48:24
Message: <3AF12982.B94FE9D@free.fr>
Tom Melly wrote:
> 
> I competitors submit images any smaller than some of the entries in this
> round, we're going to have to start viewing the thumbnails to see the
> details....

Even more strange. What program has 331x248 as a standard format ?
The three smallest images are this size. And they all look built
by the same person (or same program). All the addresses are at
Hotmail or Excite, and all the text files are filled the same
(ie: nothing besides strict minimum to validate the entry).

What's that ? Someone who flooded ? What for ?

...

Hey, this is really just my two cents. There's no cheating or
anything involved, so judge them fairly (if you manage to view
them...). I'm just trying to imagine who can do such an "amount"
of work (four images, I think) and yet try to hide this, and
besides doesn't do any justice to his work by submitting
alomst-thumbnails, and empty description files.

Sorry for way the text is written, I'm in a hurry.

-- 
Adrien Beau - adr### [at] freefr - http://adrien.beau@free.fr


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: grumble
Date: 3 May 2001 05:51:34
Message: <3af12a26@news.povray.org>
I think that it could be a good idea if the image dimensions (in pixels)
were put along the other text around the thumbnail in the viewing page.

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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: grumble
Date: 3 May 2001 05:52:21
Message: <3af12a55$1@news.povray.org>
"Adrien Beau" <adr### [at] freefr> wrote in message
news:3AF### [at] freefr...
>
> Even more strange. What program has 331x248 as a standard format ?
> The three smallest images are this size. And they all look built
> by the same person (or same program). All the addresses are at
> Hotmail or Excite, and all the text files are filled the same
> (ie: nothing besides strict minimum to validate the entry).
>
> What's that ? Someone who flooded ? What for ?
>

Hmm, well someone could submit one good image under one email, four poor
images under four other emails, and then use his four votes to boost the
score for his main image.

IIRC the irtc admins do watch for this kind of thing....


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From: Josh English
Subject: Re: grumble
Date: 3 May 2001 18:31:52
Message: <3AF1DA58.96E39AE6@spiritone.com>
Tom Melly wrote:

> I competitors submit images any smaller than some of the entries in this
> round, we're going to have to start viewing the thumbnails to see the
> details....
>
> --
> "To stop children being afraid of the dark, try to fill their daylight hours
> with as much terror as possible"
> www.tomandlu.co.uk

I wonder if it has to do with their screen size and how they organize their
windows, or possibly they didn't have a good compression utility to get the
scene below 250K (Or whatever the limit is) so they resized them.

Josh


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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: grumble
Date: 3 May 2001 18:59:10
Message: <3AF1E33F.B1CA3236@mixmail.com>
Tom Melly wrote:

> > What's that ? Someone who flooded ? What for ?
> >
>
> Hmm, well someone could submit one good image under one email, four poor
> images under four other emails, and then use his four votes to boost the
> score for his main image.
>

Well... due the usual low number of votes... this *could work*!!! I don't
know if this
is the case, but the possibility is real. I've just got my new ADSL, and
have not seen
still all the images, but I will look at it closer.

Jaime


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From: Bob Franke
Subject: Re: grumble
Date: 3 May 2001 20:26:00
Message: <3AF1F6BC.2EC3DBAB@hotmail.com>
Tom Melly wrote:

> "Adrien Beau" <adr### [at] freefr> wrote in message
> news:3AF### [at] freefr...
> >
> > Even more strange. What program has 331x248 as a standard format ?
> > The three smallest images are this size. And they all look built
> > by the same person (or same program). All the addresses are at
> > Hotmail or Excite, and all the text files are filled the same
> > (ie: nothing besides strict minimum to validate the entry).
> >
> > What's that ? Someone who flooded ? What for ?
> >
>

Very strange.

>
> Hmm, well someone could submit one good image under one email, four poor
> images under four other emails, and then use his four votes to boost the
> score for his main image.
>
> IIRC the irtc admins do watch for this kind of thing....

This is a very real possibility and if the main image is competitive it will
work.  I am going to check it out also, and maybe alert Chip and Bill.
Bob


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Subject: Re: grumble (off topic)
Date: 3 May 2001 22:31:40
Message: <3af2148c$1@news.povray.org>
Hi!
I was just wondering, does your site still works? I searched for it but I
couldn't find it.

Louis


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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: grumble (off topic)
Date: 3 May 2001 22:40:40
Message: <3AF21584.8EDD1FE5@videotron.ca>

> 
>     Hi!
> I was just wondering, does your site still works? I searched for it but I
> couldn't find it.
> 
> Louis

If you're replying to Jaime, he's at:

http://ciberia.ya.com/jaimevives/

It's hard to tell when you don't quote the message to whihc you're
replying.


-- 
Francois Labreque | The surest sign of the existence of extra-
    flabreque     | terrestrial intelligence is that they never
        @         | bothered to come down here and visit us!
  videotron.ca    |                             - Calvin


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From: Mark Wagner
Subject: Re: grumble
Date: 4 May 2001 01:06:10
Message: <3af238c2@news.povray.org>
Adrien Beau wrote in message <3AF### [at] freefr>...
>Even more strange. What program has 331x248 as a standard format ?
>The three smallest images are this size. And they all look built
>by the same person (or same program). All the addresses are at
>Hotmail or Excite, and all the text files are filled the same
>(ie: nothing besides strict minimum to validate the entry).


In past rounds, the small resolution and lack of details is usually a sign
that the image is a scanned photograph.  Since I haven't seen the images in
question yet, I can't say for certain.

--
Mark


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