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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Yet another warfare interpretation
Date: 5 Sep 2001 07:28:54
Message: <3b960c76$1@news.povray.org>
I'd like to do something illustrating the fight against disease, specifically
AIDS. Do you think this is a fair interpretation? I don't mind being crucified
by a few voters for (ITHO) being off-topic, but what's the general consensus?

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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: Yet another warfare interpretation
Date: 5 Sep 2001 07:57:54
Message: <3B961322.5E01102B@videotron.ca>
Tom Melly wrote:
> 
> I'd like to do something illustrating the fight against disease, specifically
> AIDS. Do you think this is a fair interpretation? I don't mind being crucified
> by a few voters for (ITHO) being off-topic, but what's the general consensus?

100% on-topic, IMHO.

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Yet another warfare interpretation
Date: 5 Sep 2001 08:57:17
Message: <3b96212c@news.povray.org>
Francois Labreque <fla### [at] videotronca> wrote:
: 100% on-topic, IMHO.

  As long as the image clearly shows some kind of fight/war.

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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: Yet another warfare interpretation
Date: 5 Sep 2001 09:19:33
Message: <3b962665@news.povray.org>
"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message news:3b96212c@news.povray.org...
> Francois Labreque <fla### [at] videotronca> wrote:
> : 100% on-topic, IMHO.
>
>   As long as the image clearly shows some kind of fight/war.
>

Define clearly ;)

FYI my idea was for a shot of a typical cocktail of the drugs used by an HIV+
patient. This would (hopefully) illustrate both the individual "war" fought by
the patient against the disease, and the larger "war" fought by the medical
establishment as they create more and more sophisticated drugs to deal with this
slippery and adaptable enemy.


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Yet another warfare interpretation
Date: 5 Sep 2001 09:55:31
Message: <3B962FAF.B2D8DB3D@pacbell.net>
Tom Melly wrote:
> 
> "Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message news:3b96212c@news.povray.org...
> > Francois Labreque <fla### [at] videotronca> wrote:
> > : 100% on-topic, IMHO.
> >
> >   As long as the image clearly shows some kind of fight/war.
> >
> 
> Define clearly ;)
> 
> FYI my idea was for a shot of a typical cocktail of the drugs used by an HIV+
> patient. This would (hopefully) illustrate both the individual "war" fought by
> the patient against the disease, and the larger "war" fought by the medical
> establishment as they create more and more sophisticated drugs to deal with this
> slippery and adaptable enemy.

Is this the best idea you can come up with? While it is a noble cause
and all that I don't think it will score well compared to what others
are going to submit - 50% battle Mechs with lasers blazing in the night.

I was thinking of showing two Battle Mechs sitting at a table playing checkers :)

Someone can use that idea if they want. I won't have time to work on it
this round.

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Ken Tyler


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From: Ben Chambers
Subject: Re: Yet another warfare interpretation
Date: 5 Sep 2001 11:19:01
Message: <3b964265@news.povray.org>
"Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
news:3B962FAF.B2D8DB3D@pacbell.net...
> Is this the best idea you can come up with? While it is a noble cause
> and all that I don't think it will score well compared to what others
> are going to submit - 50% battle Mechs with lasers blazing in the night.
>
> I was thinking of showing two Battle Mechs sitting at a table playing
checkers :)
>
> Someone can use that idea if they want. I won't have time to work on it
> this round.
>
> --
> Ken Tyler

You forgot to mention that the battlemechs were piloted by scantily clad
poser models :)

...Chambers


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From: Gilles Tran
Subject: Re: Yet another warfare interpretation
Date: 5 Sep 2001 12:39:04
Message: <3B9655A2.C115DD66@inapg.inra.fr>
Ken wrote:

> I was thinking of showing two Battle Mechs sitting at a table playing checkers :)

Hey, that was my Fortress entry ! Anyone who does it gets sued for plagiarism ;-)
Kidding apart, the trouble with topics that lead to literal images is that less
"obvious" images are likely to be considered as off-topic, even if they are on topic
on a more abstract level.

G.

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From: Adrien Beau
Subject: Re: Yet another warfare interpretation
Date: 5 Sep 2001 12:59:47
Message: <3B9659F7.28D2B663@sycomore.fr>
Gilles Tran wrote:
> 
> Ken wrote:
> 
> > I was thinking of showing two Battle Mechs sitting at a table playing checkers :)
> 
> Hey, that was my Fortress entry ! Anyone who does it gets sued for plagiarism ;-)

And then some French juge will impose povray.org to implement an
A.I. that detects and prevents people from submitting images remotely
resembling images submitted by French people? No way!  :-))

> Kidding apart, the trouble with topics that lead to literal images is that less
> "obvious" images are likely to be considered as off-topic, even if they are on topic
> on a more abstract level.

I think the difficulty in that case, for the authors, is to make
a less "obvious" image that is still obviously connected to the
topic.

E.g. through humor or metaphor, though it doesn't always cross
cultural gaps, as we've seen with the handful of "porcelain gods"
in the "Worship" rounds. On the other hands, when it works, it
gives the viewers a great feeling of awe. "Now, that is a brilliant
idea". This is how entrants (should) earn points on "Interpretation
of theme", I think.

To make myself clear, I'm always a bit sad when I have to read
the text description that comes with a submission to finally
understand how the author connected it to the theme.

E.g. a simple shot of several drugs on a bedtable wouldn't
probably make me think "warfare", until I read Tom's explanation.

-- 
Adrien Beau - adr### [at] freefr - http://adrien.beau.free.fr
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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: Yet another warfare interpretation
Date: 6 Sep 2001 04:48:29
Message: <3b97385d$1@news.povray.org>
"Adrien Beau" <adr### [at] sycomorefr> wrote in message
news:3B9659F7.28D2B663@sycomore.fr...

> E.g. a simple shot of several drugs on a bedtable wouldn't
> probably make me think "warfare", until I read Tom's explanation.

Probably me neither - and I'm a great believer in the notion that you shouldn't
HAVE to read the accompanying text to understand the context - I'm trying to
think of some classic war photo (e.g. those US marines raising the flag) that
would lend itself to the composition.

Any suggestions?


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From: Adrien Beau
Subject: Re: Yet another warfare interpretation
Date: 6 Sep 2001 04:53:53
Message: <3B973999.3DF76ED6@sycomore.fr>
Some ActUp "soldiers" raising a "Fight AIDS" flag on a
pharmacorp building. With a composition similar to the
famous Berlin photo of Russian soldier raising their
flags over the ruins of the Nazi empire.

-- 
Adrien Beau - adr### [at] freefr - http://adrien.beau.free.fr
 Mes propos n'engagent que moi et en aucun cas mes employeurs


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