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From: John VanSickle
Subject: It's been a {FILTERED} year now.
Date: 8 Feb 2008 00:41:25
Message: <47aba535@news.povray.org>
PASSENGER:  How long until this train leaves?

CONDUCTOR:  That depends.

PASSENGER:  Depends on what?

CONDUCTOR:  That, also, depends.

--

It has been over a year since activity took place on the IRTC.  If the 
old admin won't come back and do the admin thing, replacement is long 
overdue.

If the admin, in spite of his/her/its inactivity, cannot be replaced, 
the reasons therefore need to be made known to the IRTC community.

If the IRTC is dead and cannot be brought back, the time has come to 
make it official.

Regards,
John


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From: gregjohn
Subject: Re: It's been a {FILTERED} year now.
Date: 8 Feb 2008 01:35:01
Message: <web.47abb119d365ebf334d207310@news.povray.org>
John VanSickle <evi### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>
> It has been over a year since activity took place on the IRTC.  If the
> old admin won't come back and do the admin thing, replacement is long
> overdue.
>

Didn't Thorsten tell us to just wait a bit?


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From: Trevor G Quayle
Subject: Re: It's been a {FILTERED} year now.
Date: 8 Feb 2008 01:45:00
Message: <web.47abb3c0d365ebf32ae8612c0@news.povray.org>
John VanSickle <evi### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> PASSENGER:  How long until this train leaves?
>
> CONDUCTOR:  That depends.
>
> PASSENGER:  Depends on what?
>
> CONDUCTOR:  That, also, depends.
>
> --
>
> It has been over a year since activity took place on the IRTC.  If the
> old admin won't come back and do the admin thing, replacement is long
> overdue.
>
> If the admin, in spite of his/her/its inactivity, cannot be replaced,
> the reasons therefore need to be made known to the IRTC community.
>
> If the IRTC is dead and cannot be brought back, the time has come to
> make it official.
>
> Regards,
> John

I agree.  What I find most annoying is that the final round was never resolved
for those who participated.  No voting, no winner.  I'm sure some people worked
hard on their images.  I know I would have found it disappointing if I had
submitted.

-tgq


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: It's been a {FILTERED} year now.
Date: 9 Feb 2008 01:45:40
Message: <47ad05c4@news.povray.org>
gregjohn wrote:
> John VanSickle <evi### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>> It has been over a year since activity took place on the IRTC.  If the
>> old admin won't come back and do the admin thing, replacement is long
>> overdue.
>>
> 
> Didn't Thorsten tell us to just wait a bit?

A bit << a year.

Regards,
John


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From: [GDS|Entropy]
Subject: Re: It's been a {FILTERED} year now.
Date: 9 Feb 2008 16:48:25
Message: <47add959$1@news.povray.org>
Yeah, no doubt.

I've offered my extra hosting disk space and any requird programming 
services I can help with, as I am sure others have as well....to no 
avail..not even dignified with a response..

What must be done??

I've not ever entered the IRTC but I sure loved viewing the entries, and 
want it to come back.

Ian

"Trevor G Quayle" <Tin### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
news:web.47abb3c0d365ebf32ae8612c0@news.povray.org...
> John VanSickle <evi### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>> PASSENGER:  How long until this train leaves?
>>
>> CONDUCTOR:  That depends.
>>
>> PASSENGER:  Depends on what?
>>
>> CONDUCTOR:  That, also, depends.
>>
>> --
>>
>> It has been over a year since activity took place on the IRTC.  If the
>> old admin won't come back and do the admin thing, replacement is long
>> overdue.
>>
>> If the admin, in spite of his/her/its inactivity, cannot be replaced,
>> the reasons therefore need to be made known to the IRTC community.
>>
>> If the IRTC is dead and cannot be brought back, the time has come to
>> make it official.
>>
>> Regards,
>> John
>
> I agree.  What I find most annoying is that the final round was never 
> resolved
> for those who participated.  No voting, no winner.  I'm sure some people 
> worked
> hard on their images.  I know I would have found it disappointing if I had
> submitted.
>
> -tgq
>
>


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From: Chris Cason
Subject: Re: It's been a {FILTERED} year now.
Date: 10 Feb 2008 02:27:51
Message: <47ae6127$1@news.povray.org>
[GDS|Entropy] wrote:
> I've offered my extra hosting disk space and any requird programming 
> services I can help with, as I am sure others have as well....to no 
> avail..not even dignified with a response..

Where was this message sent? If it was on the mailing list it's possible it
was never seen by any admin (I don't read the mailing list myself).

In any event, hosting is not the issue, it's development of a new
infrastructure and the subsequent administration of the comp. I'm able to
host it and perform basic maintenance and updates, provided the system is
basically automated. Something could be built on the old POVCOMP code is
someone wishes to do so. However it would still require many man-days of
someone's time to get it to a point where this would be possible.

-- Chris


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From: [GDS|Entropy]
Subject: Re: It's been a {FILTERED} year now.
Date: 10 Feb 2008 05:47:31
Message: <47ae8ff3$1@news.povray.org>
Hey Chris,

I sent it through the email form on the main page.
I usually avoid mailing lists. Too much...um, well...mail... ;-)

What lang was the povcomp code written in?
I have obviously not had a chance to see this code yet, but IME sometimes it 
is better to create a new system than to upgrade an old one.

Hmm...I did a Google search for "povcomp code", and the only useful 
reference to it is a post by you 1/31/07 offering to provide the code. ;-)

I am not sure of the ins and outs of the old system, as I said before, but I 
am envisioning something about like this:
    1) web-based voting (gridview w/clickable thumbs for larger image, 
dropdowns, enhanced rating categories, etc..)

    2) users sign up with basic info and captcha verification, no mailing 
list flood, just confirmation e-mail

    3) registered users can upload files/images (obvious filtering/etc.. to 
prevent injection attacks)

    4) some stuff goes into a SQL/MySQL db or related, with actual files 
stored on a server and pointers to them stored in the DB (not a big fan of 
varbinary for this, but whatever)

    5) voting is automatically tallied like so many other online surveys, 
etc..

    6) perhaps some form of RSS notification of new submissions, voting 
results and what not.

    7) assuming we knew someones cell carrier and their number we could even 
sms when they get voted for and for what...

I say ASP.NET 2/3.5ext, C#, SQL2005....throw a few devs in there and maybe a 
graphics designer or two and that is like what? 1 Month at *worst* using 
spare time??

I've done that sort of thing before by myself, its not so bad, and I have 
most of the code already from other projects, which could be used for 
this...
I know there are plenty here who greatly exceed my skill as well...a mean, 
some of you built freakin POV-Ray (3 cheers!!) so.... :-D

I'm down for it...

Sincerely,
Ian


"Chris Cason" <del### [at] deletethistoopovrayorg> wrote in 
message news:47ae6127$1@news.povray.org...
> [GDS|Entropy] wrote:
>> I've offered my extra hosting disk space and any requird programming
>> services I can help with, as I am sure others have as well....to no
>> avail..not even dignified with a response..
>
> Where was this message sent? If it was on the mailing list it's possible 
> it
> was never seen by any admin (I don't read the mailing list myself).
>
> In any event, hosting is not the issue, it's development of a new
> infrastructure and the subsequent administration of the comp. I'm able to
> host it and perform basic maintenance and updates, provided the system is
> basically automated. Something could be built on the old POVCOMP code is
> someone wishes to do so. However it would still require many man-days of
> someone's time to get it to a point where this would be possible.
>
> -- Chris


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: It's been a {FILTERED} year now.
Date: 10 Feb 2008 06:11:29
Message: <47ae9591$1@news.povray.org>
[GDS|Entropy] escribió:
> What lang was the povcomp code written in?

At least the "frontend" is written in PHP. I don't know if they have 
something else hidden from users (vote counting?).


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From: [GDS|Entropy]
Subject: Re: It's been a {FILTERED} year now.
Date: 10 Feb 2008 06:33:07
Message: <47ae9aa3$1@news.povray.org>
Hmm...

I still like C#/ASP.NET for it. ;-)
PHP is nice too, just different.

Ian

"Nicolas Alvarez" <nic### [at] gmailisthebestcom> wrote in message 
news:47ae9591$1@news.povray.org...
> [GDS|Entropy] escribió:
>> What lang was the povcomp code written in?
>
> At least the "frontend" is written in PHP. I don't know if they have 
> something else hidden from users (vote counting?).


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From: C  Cappai
Subject: Re: It's been a {FILTERED} year now.
Date: 10 Feb 2008 10:25:00
Message: <web.47aecfe8d365ebf33f9105a50@news.povray.org>
Chris Cason <del### [at] deletethistoopovrayorg> wrote:
> [GDS|Entropy] wrote:
> > I've offered my extra hosting disk space and any requird programming
> > services I can help with, as I am sure others have as well....to no
> > avail..not even dignified with a response..
>
> Where was this message sent? If it was on the mailing list it's possible it
> was never seen by any admin (I don't read the mailing list myself).
>
> In any event, hosting is not the issue, it's development of a new
> infrastructure and the subsequent administration of the comp. I'm able to
> host it and perform basic maintenance and updates, provided the system is
> basically automated. Something could be built on the old POVCOMP code is
> someone wishes to do so. However it would still require many man-days of
> someone's time to get it to a point where this would be possible.
>
> -- Chris

I am a "young cab" of Povray ... nevertheless, my first approach to 3d is
initiated through IRTC and POVCOMP. IRTC is a real mine: many wonderful images,
many sources code, a good philosophy. I believe that the resurrection of IRTC
and/or POVCOMP would give a new impulse to the diffusion of Povray.


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