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From: Markus Altendorff
Subject: April 30th approaching...
Date: 25 Apr 2007 14:38:23
Message: <462f67df$1@news.povray.org>
... how's tracing?

Anyone working on the interim "Space Settelement" animation topic?

Will it be added to http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/3dextra/ ?

So many questions... :)

-Markus
(lagging behind my schedule due to a nasty cold... argh!)


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From: St 
Subject: Re: April 30th approaching...
Date: 25 Apr 2007 18:56:43
Message: <462fa46b$1@news.povray.org>
"Markus Altendorff" <maa### [at] panoramasde> wrote in message 
news:462f67df$1@news.povray.org...
> ... how's tracing?

  PDG at the moment... I think, (I hope!!)   ;)


>
> Anyone working on the interim "Space Settelement" animation topic?

    "Not I" said the fly... but I'm sure a few others are, well, I hope they 
are... <shrug>


>
> Will it be added to http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/3dextra/ ?

    Of course.  :)


>
> So many questions... :)

  Questions, questions, questions... Where would we be without questions?! 
;)

      ~Steve~

>
> -Markus
> (lagging behind my schedule due to a nasty cold... argh!)

    <sniff-shoo!>


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: April 30th approaching...
Date: 26 Apr 2007 23:24:20
Message: <463134a4@news.povray.org>
Markus Altendorff wrote:
> ... how's tracing?
> 
> Anyone working on the interim "Space Settelement" animation topic?

I've decided that I'm not going to do any animations until there is a 
definite word on whether the IRTC is coming back or not.  At that time 
I'll decide when and where I'll be resuming animations.

Regards,
John


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From: Greg M  Johnson
Subject: Re: April 30th approaching...
Date: 27 Apr 2007 01:21:25
Message: <46315014@news.povray.org>
For various reasons, I'm ready to get back in the saddle. (One personal
commitment eased up, computer problems solved, day-job animation project
complete.)

But I'm not doing anything for this round.

Note: if you are using my povray file. per se,  for selecting topics, make
sure that you enter in a pre-seed number of the exact specified number of
digits (you can choose one anyway you like).

I personally think LOOONNG contest rounds may discourage some who may fear
looking bad in comparison to someone who has the time to put in a full 4.0
months of evenings into a project.  I am sad the 10second club went under.
They were able to generate tons of quality entries with a one-month cycle. 
I wouldda moved us to 2. 


Markus Altendorff wrote:

> ... how's tracing?
> Anyone working on the interim "Space Settelement" animation topic?
>


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From: dbott
Subject: Re: April 30th approaching...
Date: 27 Apr 2007 01:34:12
Message: <46315314@news.povray.org>
"Greg M. Johnson" <pte### [at] thecommononethatstartswithYcom> wrote in
message news:46315014@news.povray.org...
> For various reasons, I'm ready to get back in the saddle. (One personal
> commitment eased up, computer problems solved, day-job animation project
> complete.)
>
> But I'm not doing anything for this round.
>
> Note: if you are using my povray file. per se,  for selecting topics, make
> sure that you enter in a pre-seed number of the exact specified number of
> digits (you can choose one anyway you like).
>
> I personally think LOOONNG contest rounds may discourage some who may fear
> looking bad in comparison to someone who has the time to put in a full 4.0
> months of evenings into a project.  I am sad the 10second club went under.
> They were able to generate tons of quality entries with a one-month cycle.
> I wouldda moved us to 2.
>
>
> Markus Altendorff wrote:
>
> > ... how's tracing?
> > Anyone working on the interim "Space Settelement" animation topic?
> >
>

Sorry - Markus I  let this one slip bye...........and I helped picked the
topic.
Things got crazy busy for me. But I am starting to work on the next topic.
I Think it is "The Black Robe" ?????????
Darin


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From: St 
Subject: Re: April 30th approaching...
Date: 27 Apr 2007 04:30:32
Message: <46317c68$1@news.povray.org>
"dbott" <dbo### [at] eastsoundsuitescom> wrote in message 
news:46315314@news.povray.org...


> Things got crazy busy for me. But I am starting to work on the next topic.
> I Think it is "The Black Robe" ?????????

      Yes, it's "The Black Robe" for both Stills and Animations. Stills is 
from May to end of June, and Animations is May to to end of August. Two and 
four months repectively. So, keep at it Darin!   :o)

        ~Steve~




> Darin


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From: St 
Subject: Re: April 30th approaching...
Date: 27 Apr 2007 04:30:33
Message: <46317c69$1@news.povray.org>
"Greg M. Johnson" <pte### [at] thecommononethatstartswithYcom> wrote in 
message news:46315014@news.povray.org...

> I personally think LOOONNG contest rounds may discourage some who may fear
> looking bad in comparison to someone who has the time to put in a full 4.0
> months of evenings into a project.

        I disagree with that Greg. We all know how hard it is to even 
complete a still image, let alone an animation. I think when new people see 
the quality that will be involved, they will be glad of the 4 months to at 
least get something done. That's the challenge.


> I wouldda moved us to 2.

   I understand Markus' earlier point about this in another thread. Two 
months is just too short to produce quality, and quality is definately 
what's needed to get those newbies interested. I think they'll be glad to 
have four months.

    And anyway, who's to say that there won't be a 'one week' or 'one month' 
animation challenge too?  ;)

        ~Steve~



>
>
> Markus Altendorff wrote:
>
>> ... how's tracing?
>> Anyone working on the interim "Space Settelement" animation topic?
>>
>


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From: St 
Subject: Re: April 30th approaching...
Date: 27 Apr 2007 04:30:33
Message: <46317c69$3@news.povray.org>
"John VanSickle" <evi### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
news:463134a4@news.povray.org...
> Markus Altendorff wrote:
>> ... how's tracing?
>>
>> Anyone working on the interim "Space Settelement" animation topic?
>
> I've decided that I'm not going to do any animations until there is a 
> definite word on whether the IRTC is coming back or not.  At that time 
> I'll decide when and where I'll be resuming animations.

        The thing is John, you'll be an old man by the time the folks at the 
IRTC decide to say ANYTHING at all. Personally, even if the IRTC came back 
with a new website, new comps, whatever, I wouldn't entertain them. I think 
it's really bad form to have done what they've done without doing anything, 
saying anything, to ANYONE that's involved. It was just really bad 
etiquette, (or, netiquette, if you like).

      I would start on "The Black Robe" if I were you John - I was always 
intrigued by what you might come up with for this round.


         ~Steve~



>
> Regards,
> John


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From: Markus Altendorff
Subject: Re: April 30th approaching...
Date: 27 Apr 2007 10:11:44
Message: <4631cc60@news.povray.org>
>> Markus Altendorff wrote:
>>> ... how's tracing?
>>>
>>> Anyone working on the interim "Space Settelement" animation topic?

Wow, with the overwhelmingly "positive" response to that question ... i 
can almost see the tumbleweeds rolling by and hear the broken window 
panes of the IRTC animation community in the distance, rattling in the 
desert wind ;)

Now do i want to publicly embarrass myself by hurrying to finish my 
video, just to find out it's the only entry? :(

I mean, i enjoy making 3-D animations, and now the tools that work well 
with my workflow seem to be available to me. Yeah, nice. Great. But 
what's even more fun is *talking* (resp. writing) about the results and 
the whole feedback stuff. Now 3D isn't quite the mass market (yes, 
YouTube, i'm looking accusingly into your direction...), and i'm not 
something like a real "artist", that's why i've always enjoyed this 
"peer group" talk with other people that already know what doing 3-D 
amateur projects is like here. "You don't have to be any good" (quote 
from the IRTC rulebook) - that's not something you'll find on the front 
page of any other contest/gallery website...
I mean, c'mon. Talking about e.g. "surface normals" isn't quite part of 
the common vocabulary. Most people i know in "real life" tend to 
interpret that as a reference to people who are "secretly nuts" - and 
who am i to blame them ;)
This is why the whole IRTC affair... it just hurts to see it in this 
state of decay.

 > "John VanSickle" <evi### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
 > news:463134a4@news.povray.org...

>> I've decided that I'm not going to do any animations until there is a 
>> definite word on whether the IRTC is coming back or not.  At that time 
>> I'll decide when and where I'll be resuming animations.

Sorry to hear that. I'm missing Rusty already. Watching the re-runs just 
isn't the same...

St. wrote:

>         The thing is John, you'll be an old man by the time the folks at the 
> IRTC decide to say ANYTHING at all. Personally, even if the IRTC came back 
> with a new website, new comps, whatever, I wouldn't entertain them. I think 
> it's really bad form to have done what they've done without doing anything, 
> saying anything, to ANYONE that's involved. It was just really bad 
> etiquette, (or, netiquette, if you like).

It sure feels like this, but i'm not certain it was *meant* like that. 
 From what i've gathered over time, the voluntary "staff" of the IRTC is 
really, really small (at some point in time, there were 3 at most? It 
started in its first incarnation as a one-man-show, IIRC), and now with 
the admin gone for unknown reasons...

(i blushingly recall always being under the impression of the IRTC being 
physically locate in Australia, which is why i half-jokingly speculated 
about a surfer accident or posion spiders back in december - until i 
recently learned it's in the U.S.A - Ooops. )
I've seen artist's websites (i'm also into webcomics... can't seem to 
keep away from anything that a) requires computers, b) comes with flashy 
graphics and c) wastes my time ;) with notes like "sorry, i'm in the 
military and i'm heading off to Bagdad in a week. Won't have internet 
for the next year." Now that's a scary thought... and in that case, i'm 
pretty sure nominating a replacement admin would be waaay down on my list.

>       I would start on "The Black Robe" if I were you John - I was always 
> intrigued by what you might come up with for this round.

Will there be more participants this time...?

Yoohoo...?

*sigh*

-Markus
(slightly depressed)


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From: dbott
Subject: Re: April 30th approaching...
Date: 27 Apr 2007 12:39:06
Message: <4631eeea$1@news.povray.org>
"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:46317c69$1@news.povray.org...
>
> "Greg M. Johnson" <pte### [at] thecommononethatstartswithYcom> wrote in
> message news:46315014@news.povray.org...
>
> > I personally think LOOONNG contest rounds may discourage some who may
fear
> > looking bad in comparison to someone who has the time to put in a full
4.0
> > months of evenings into a project.
>
>         I disagree with that Greg. We all know how hard it is to even
> complete a still image, let alone an animation. I think when new people
see
> the quality that will be involved, they will be glad of the 4 months to at
> least get something done. That's the challenge.
>
>
> > I wouldda moved us to 2.
>
>    I understand Markus' earlier point about this in another thread. Two
> months is just too short to produce quality, and quality is definately
> what's needed to get those newbies interested. I think they'll be glad to
> have four months.
>
>     And anyway, who's to say that there won't be a 'one week' or 'one
month'
> animation challenge too?  ;)
>
>         ~Steve~

Yes --- 4 months is perfect, especially for people that work 1 or 2 hours a
night
on them. And again, sorry Markus, I lost steam.....Working on coo-coo for 2
months <my first entry to irtc> only to find out I submitted to a closed web
site.
Very frustrating..............Steve, I am working on the Black Robe. It will
be nice
to see the web page -----  I am looking forward to participating in
something active.

Darin


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